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To: BrandtMichaels; Ezekiel
Concerning the genealogy Matt. 1, (NIV):

12 After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,
Abihud the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,
14 Azor the father of Zadok,
Zadok the father of Akim,
Akim the father of Elihud,
15 Elihud the father of Eleazar,
Eleazar the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,
16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

According to some scholars, one of which is Nehemia Gordon, a Karaite Scholar, over two dozen Hebrew Matthews have been discovered. In two of the oldest manuscripts of the Hebrew Matthew, verse 16 linage above reads, "Yoseph avi Miriam" - Yoseph the father of Miriam of whom was born Yeshua.

From the apocryphal Gospel of James upstream, Mary's father is Joakim. In Matthew, it's Yoseph, or Yoseph ben Jacob (Yaakov), so in the apocryphal Gospel of James there is some discrepancy - but perhaps explainable?


Jeremiah 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.


IMO, ONLY allows for a blood decedent, fulfilled through Mariam/Mary.

15 posted on 03/21/2017 9:43:27 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous
Btw, not only is there a discrepancy in the KJV between the genealogies listed in Matthew and Luke, there is also a discrepancy in:

Matt. 1:16 "...and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah."

Because if you count the generations, there are only 13 generations given in Matthew. Whereas, if Joseph isn't the "husband of Mary", but the "father of Mary", as the recently discovered Hebrew Matthew manuscripts may confirm, then there are 14 generations, keeping with the pattern of number of generations from Abraham to David, and from David to the exile to Babylon, and 14 generations from exile to Yeshua.

Luke contains the linage of Yoseph ben Eli, Yeshua's stepfather. But Yeshua's only earthly parent was Mary, whose linage through her father, Yoseph ben Yaakov, is listed in the book of Matthew. It explains the discrepancy between the two genealogies and the two slightly different names of Joseph connected to Mary in both Luke and Matthew.

16 posted on 03/21/2017 10:23:34 PM PDT by amorphous
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