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Catholics need to learn how to understand Scripture in historical context....

When you understand the context of what Jesus was referring to, the passage takes on a different meaning...

And the Pharisees came to him, and [they] asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? [And notice, they were] tempting him (Mar 10:2).

This was a lead kind of a question. Obviously they were seeking to trap Him in the answer that He gave. They felt that His answers were contrary to the law given through Moses. And they were hoping to trap Him, to show to the people that were gathered there that He was a heretic, that He was teaching something other than the law of Moses. And so, they asked Him the question, “Is it right for a man to divorce his wife?” Now, in the law, in the book of Deuteronomy, God did say through Moses that if a man married a woman and found some uncleanness in her, he should give her a writing of a bill of divorcement. Now, that is a little vague, not much, but a little. But there are always people who are trying to jump into any little area of controversy, or any area where there might be an excuse for what they want to do.

There were two basic schools of thought taught by the Jews that were headed under famous rabbis. There was a rabbi by the name of Shami. Shami taught that uncleanness meant only that when he married her, he discovered on the marriage night that she was not a virgin, she was not clean; she was not a virgin. And thus, if he discovered that, he had the right to divorce her. And Shami took that very narrow, limited viewpoint that the uncleanness would be adultery on the part of the wife either before or after marriage and that constituted the only grounds for divorce. Now, there was another school headed by the Rabbi Hallel, which took a very liberal interpretation of finding an uncleanness in her. If she didn’t dress the way he liked her to, if she was a brawling woman... and they interpreted that if you could hear her voice next door, she was counted a brawling woman. Or if she didn’t fix the meals to please him, that this constituted an uncleanness in her, and thus he had the right to divorce her for these grounds.

Now, the Jews were quite divided, but naturally, the Hallel side was of greater popularity among the men. And there was one rabbi by the name of Ocabe, and he said that if he found another woman that pleased him more, that constituted an uncleanness in his wife, and so he could divorce her just because he found another woman that pleased him more. Now, naturally, by these liberal interpretations, they made the law totally meaningless. But still, they were divided quite sharply on this particular issue. And so, they brought the issue to Jesus. “Can a man divorce his wife for any cause?”

And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered [allowed] to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and they twain [two] shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain [two], but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder (Mar 10:3-9).

So, Jesus, in answering their question, asked them the question, “What did Moses command?” They said, “Moses said we could give her a writing of divorcement and put her away.” And they had two different bills of divorcement. The second one became quite technical and had to be written up by a rabbi and then approved by three rabbis, and you could give it to your wife and she officially was put away. But because of the liberal views that they had taken, there was social chaos: children who really were almost orphaned in the sense that they did not have a solid type of a home environment to grow up in. And so Jesus, in talking about marriage and divorce, rather than going to the precept of Moses, He said, “Moses gave you that because of the hardness of your hearts. But in the beginning and from the beginning it was not so.” Now we are dealing with God’s divine ideal. “From the beginning...” What was God’s ideal? What was God’s intention?

First of all, there is the recognition that man by himself is not complete. Woman by herself is not complete. God made them male and female, and the two become one. And there’s only a wholeness as the two become one. The wife is to compliment the husband and make a completeness, as the husband is to compliment the wife and make a completeness. But neither are complete in themselves. “And in the beginning, God made them male and female. And for this cause a man leaves his mother and father, cleaves to his wife and the two of them become one, one whole, one total. Therefore, those whom God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” And He is dealing now with the basic divine ideal established by God for marriage. And so we must note that Jesus is going back and dealing with the basic ideal and intention of God in the beginning. But man did not live up to God’s divine ideal because of the hardness of man’s heart, so many times the unwillingness to bend, the unwillingness to forgive, or the unwillingness just to give. For marriage is surely a giving proposition. And the hardness of a man’s heart in his unwillingness to bend or to give created intolerable situations. And so, because of the hardness of their hearts towards God’s divine ideal, Moses in the law declared, “Let him give her a writing of a bill of divorcement.” So Jesus declares the divine ideal of God, recognizing man did not come to it; and thus, God’s accommodation through the law to make that separation binding and legal, to go through the writing of divorcement. Today we are faced still with the hardness of heart.

Now, God’s divine ideal still stands. It is still the divine ideal that there be one marriage for life. That’s God’s divine ideal. That’s what God would have. But today, there are still those who have hard hearts to God’s divine ideal. They will not bend, they will not yield, they will not give, they will not forgive. And when that condition does exist, marriage can be a hell. And it is extremely unfortunate when two persons set about, consciously or unconsciously, to destroy each other. That surely is not God’s divine ideal either. “And I’m going to hang on until I kill her.” God’s divine ideal is that the two be one, that they be brought together in a harmony through love and a true oneness in love.

It’s difficult to deal with this subject inasmuch as, number one, we do not want to broaden the issue to make divorce and remarriage a very simple go-for-it kind of a thing. “If she doesn’t please you, if you’ve found someone else, divorce her.” Surely, God does not intend that. In fact, God declared in Malachi He hated divorces. Yet, He also hates those intolerable conditions that sometimes exist when you get a hard-hearted person in a marriage relationship.

So, we just can’t say, “Oh, well, it doesn’t matter. Do what you want. Whatever pleases you.” Our desire should be to please God. If we are in a bad marriage, we should seek to make it a good marriage. We should do our best to make a go of the marriage, to forgive, to give, to love, to have understanding and to come to an agreement, to come to a oneness.

On the other hand, in dealing with the subject, we do not want to create condemnation for those who have had that bitter experience of being married to someone by paper, but not by reality, where there never was a true oneness brought together by God’s Spirit. And because of intolerable situations, to save themselves, found it necessary to get a divorce, less the marriage totally destroy them.

It is unfortunate, that many times in the folly of youth, young couples believed themselves to be madly in love and insist on getting married because they can’t wait. And soon after the infatuation has worn off, they realized the total incompatibility. Someone has said that a decision as important as marriage should never be left up to the judgment of a child. And that’s why they had marriage by arrangement. But that had its flaws too.

Now, if a person, while a teenager, gets married and it is soon obvious that it was a tragic mistake, and it’s impossible to live with that person and they then get a divorce. I speak now for myself, as Paul the apostle said. Paul is speaking now, I don’t have any commandment of the Lord of this, but this is Paul speaking. And so, this is Chuck speaking now. I do not believe that God says to that person, “Alright, you made your bed, lie in it.” Or, “You made a mistake, now you can just suffer the rest of your life for the mistake that you made as a silly child. And you can never marry again.” I really do not believe that God says that. But that’s me; that is my conviction.

So, Jesus sought to bring back the realization of the sacredness of marriage. The Catholic Church says it is a sacrament, and I think that they are probably correct. It is an outward sign of a spiritual work, and there is that spiritual union that is created by God as the two become one. Marriage to the right person can be heaven on earth. Marriage to the wrong person can be hell on earth, and I speak especially now to young people who are not yet married, who are perhaps contemplating it. Spend much time in prayer over your decision. Before I married my wife, I went off and spent time fasting and praying. I’m glad. I’m glad I made the right decision. I’m glad the Lord led me to that decision through prayer and through fasting. And I mean, that is a matter that you should not leave to your heart or to your emotions. It is something that you need to prayerfully consider. Much better that you not make a mistake than you try to later on correct the mistake.

I do not believe that God condemns that person to hell who has divorced and remarried. I believe that if you find yourself in a remarriage, that you need to make the best of it. Just let your marriage become all that God wants it to be. I don’t think that you should go out and say, “Well, I was married before, now I better divorce you too.” I believe that you should stay in the condition where you are. The Bible tells us that a man should abide in the calling wherewith he was called; when you were called by Christ and you accepted the Lord, what your condition was there. Maybe you’ve been married, divorced, remarried. Work it out now in this relationship that you have. Let it bring honor and glory to God.


9 posted on 02/24/2017 7:27:37 PM PST by Popman
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To: Popman

Jesus’ word does not disappear. It is still applicable today.


14 posted on 02/24/2017 7:32:19 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Popman

You clearly have no understanding of Catholic dogma or faith. Your understanding of scripture may be amazing, but you are blind to the reality of what Our Lord gave us. I will pray for your enlightenment.


28 posted on 02/24/2017 8:16:55 PM PST by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: Popman

In my opinion, God hates divorce. Like you wrote, His clear intent is that couples marry for life. On the other hand, people are sinners, and we make spiritual mistakes, including divorce. If someone divorces and remarries, is that a sin? Christ said it was adultery, but adultery isn’t an unforgiveable sin. Clearly, repentance is called for in such circumstances. How does one show true repentance? By not repeating the sin.

I do disagree about so-called incompatible couples. That is a very poor excuse for divorce, as two God-loving, Christians should be able to make it work. There was a time when most marriages were arranged, and those folks usually made it work and were often happy in the long run. The problem is selfishness, aka sin.

It is a very serious tragedy in the modern church that our divorce rate is nearly indistinguishable from that of unbelievers.


35 posted on 02/25/2017 12:00:53 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Popman

A lot of words to rationalize disobedience to the words of our Lord. (And yes, I read the whole thing.) Saint Paul is also clear; after divorce there are two options: reconciliation or remaining single.

All of the complaints that our Lord’s command about divorce are too hard ignore the fact that in the New Covenant of Jesus Christ we have access to all the grace we need to live according to the Gospel. Those who object do not lack the grace but refuse to submit their will. “Thy will be done” needs to be in our hearts, and not just on our lips.


50 posted on 02/25/2017 5:58:48 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Popman

Now, if a person, while a teenager, gets married and it is soon obvious that it was a tragic mistake, and it’s impossible to live with that person and they then get a divorce.


There is a lot of sense to what you say but if that was actually taught in scripture i believe it would be totally out of control by this time.

The genealogists would be pulling their hair out, know one would know who their dad was.

Any one can only do so much and can only take so much but if the responsibility is taken away before they even try they probably will not try.


57 posted on 02/25/2017 1:10:57 PM PST by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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