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To: boatbums

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Then your hope is built on Fairy poop.

If intellectual belief were enough, John would be a liar.

So would Yeshua, since he demanded Torah clearly in Matthew 5, 7, and 24.

In what, exactly will you “Endure to the end?” For what exactly will you “watch” lest he come as a thief? For what exactly was Paul’s epistle to the Colossians praising them, and in what would they yield to judged by no man but “The Body of Christ?”

Did Yeshua, John, and Paul make ‘flip’ comments?
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352 posted on 02/26/2017 10:18:22 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Then your hope is built on Fairy poop. If intellectual belief were enough, John would be a liar.

What a HORRIBLE thing to call the ROCK of our salvation! You ought to be ashamed. You also have NO idea what is in my heart nor the essence of my faith in Jesus Christ. Give up trying to mind read, you suck at it. Almighty God alone sees my heart and I am confident of this, that he who began a good work in me will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

353 posted on 02/26/2017 4:49:51 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: editor-surveyor; boatbums
You know, you are correct that Jesus taught that we all must obey the Law to see God.

We have to keep it perfectly, without one single slip up, even in the heart.

If someone could indeed keep the law as Jesus said must be done to see God, then salvation would indeed come by the law.

But the Law was not put in charge to give us salvation but by the law comes knowledge of sin. The Law was put in charge to show us God's standards, to show that we CANNOT keep it, and to lead us to Christ that we be justified by faith, just as Abraham was.

Galatians 2:15-16 We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

Galatians 2:21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

Since you demand that we keep the Law, where do you go for your sacrifices? Where is the Temple and where is the priesthood that are ordained and consecrated by God to offer the correct and acceptable sacrifices?

Do you think posting on the Sabbath si breaking the Sabbath?

354 posted on 02/26/2017 5:17:20 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Did Paul lie here?

Galatians 2:15-21 We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

But if, in our endeavor to be justified in Christ, we too were found to be sinners, is Christ then a servant of sin? Certainly not! For if I rebuild what I tore down, I prove myself to be a transgressor. For through the law I died to the law, so that I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

Galatians 3:1-29 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.

Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

355 posted on 02/26/2017 5:18:48 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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