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To: kosciusko51; amorphous
The thing that gives me the most trouble about that is that is the primary passage that Calvinists hang their hat on.

I'm of the *Let everything be established by two or three witnesses* and I use that in interpreting Scripture.

Are there other passages that say essentially the same thing?

I am not comfortable with one passage that stands alone to support a doctrine.

Additionally, I see it as contradicting many other passages of Scripture that indicate we do have a choice.

And since I am convinced that Scripture cannot contradict itself, then there's the need to explain the apparent contradiction.

Or someone's interpretation is wrong.

304 posted on 02/23/2017 9:00:55 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

In addition to Romans 8,

John 15:19

“If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you.

Ephesian 1:4-6

... just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him

He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,

to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.

1 Peter 2:9-10

But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God’s OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

for you once were NOT A PEOPLE, but now you are THE PEOPLE OF GOD; you had NOT RECEIVED MERCY, but now you have RECEIVED MERCY.

2 John 1:1

The elder to the chosen lady and her children, whom I love in truth; and not only I, but also all who know the truth, ...

Rev 13:8

All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.

All passage from NASB


310 posted on 02/23/2017 9:26:01 AM PST by kosciusko51
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