[G Larry]

At Cana, Mary asked her Son to help.

Before Jesus performed the miracle Mary instructed the servants to “do whatever He tells you.”

It is significant that these are her last words in Scripture.

[Zuriel]

**Before Jesus performed the miracle Mary instructed the servants to “do whatever He tells you.”**

And before he performs the miracle, he practically rebukes her, saying, “Woman, what have I to do with thee? Mine hour is not yet come.”

Do you pray to the Syrophenician woman? A woman that not only wasn’t mother to the Son of God, but was likened to a dog by him, yet by her request found deliverance for her daughter, so great was her faith.

**It is significant that these are her last words in Scripture.**

So your organization takes that to be the bedrock for praying to an omnipresent Mary?

It would be great if your same organization would be scripturally focused when defining Jesus Christ as he defined himself: the Son of God. Neither he, nor his apostles ever used the phrase “God the Son”.

If you think those phrases mean the same thing, then G Larry of Free Republic, means the same thing as Free Republic the G Larry, right?

[daniel1212]

Before Jesus performed the miracle Mary instructed the servants to “do whatever He tells you.” It is significant that these are her last words in Scripture.

Indeed, and NOWHERE did He or any believer teach or example praying to anyone else in Heaven but God, and distinctly instructed, "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven," (Matthew 6:9) not "our Mother in Heaven.

And by His Spirit the Lord also warns about thinjking of mortals "above what is written," (`Co. 4:6) which Catholics exceedingly do with their Mary .

One would have a hard time in Bible times explaining kneeling before a statue and praising the entity it represented in the unseen world, beseeching such for Heavenly help, and making offerings to them, and giving glory and titles and ascribing attributes to such which are never given in Scripture to created beings (except to false gods), including having the uniquely Divine power glory to hear and respond to virtually infinite numbers of prayers individually addressed to them

Which manner of adulation would constitute worship in Scripture, yet Catholics imagine that by playing word games then they can avoid crossing the invisible line between mere "veneration" and worship.

Moses, put down those rocks! I was only engaging in hyper dulia, not adoring her. Can't you tell the difference?

Cathsshould only do (and I should do more of) what Mary and every believer in Scripture did in praying to Heaven, which was to pray directly to the Lord, not saintly secretaries. But they must truly become born again for that.

Instead, Caths basically say,

As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes... (Jeremiah 44:16-17)

[ealgeone]

Before Jesus performed the miracle Mary instructed the servants to “do whatever He tells you.”

It is significant that these are her last words in Scripture.

And not once did He ever say pray to mom or rely upon her.

He did however teach His disciples to pray and that prayer was addressed to His Father.