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To: Right Brother

You might learn the difference between veneration and worship.

Have you ever asked anyone to pray for you?

Are you unaware that the prayers to Mary are simply asking here to pray for us, as she is in the presence of Christ?

Did not Moses and Elijah appear with the living Christ in front of Peter and other Apostles?

Do you deny that they are in heaven with Christ?


17 posted on 02/18/2017 7:25:50 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry
Are you unaware that the prayers to Mary are simply asking here to pray for us, as she is in the presence of Christ?

Please cite the Scripture that requires Mary to pray on our behalf.

19 posted on 02/18/2017 7:32:00 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: G Larry

“Are you unaware that the prayers to Mary are simply asking here to pray for us, as she is in the presence of Christ? Did not Moses and Elijah appear with the living Christ in front of Peter and other Apostles?”

Moses and Elijah’s appearance was a vision. See Matthew 17:9.

1 Timothy 2:5 -

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”


21 posted on 02/18/2017 7:38:49 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: G Larry
Do you deny that they are in heaven with Christ?

I deny that I have a promise that Mary can hear anything I say.

If I ask my cousin to pray for me, but he's in another state and I didn't use the telephone, then I'm pretty sure he didn't hear me and my prayer request was useless. However, if I ask him in person or on the telephone to pray for me, and he says he will pray for me, then I'm pretty sure he heard me and I didn't waste my time.

Wishful thinking and conjecture are foolish ways to practice religion.

25 posted on 02/18/2017 8:00:31 AM PST by Tao Yin
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To: G Larry

You are wasting your time.


29 posted on 02/18/2017 8:40:32 AM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: G Larry
Are you unaware that the prayers to Mary are simply asking here to pray for us, as she is in the presence of Christ?

Sadly, it's way more than that.

The following quotes are by Louis de Montfort.

This is but a mere drop in the bucket of the many, many examples of how catholics do more than "just ask her to pray for us."

“If I were asked by someone seeking to honor our Lady, ‘What does genuine devotion to her involve?’ I would answer briefly that it consists in a full appreciation of the privileges and dignity of our Lady; in expressing our gratitude for her goodness to us; in zealously promoting devotion to her; in constantly appealing for her help; in being completely dependent on her; and in placing firm reliance and loving confidence in her motherly goodness.

“In these latter times Mary must shine forth more than ever in mercy, power and grace; in mercy, to bring back and welcome lovingly the poor sinners and wanderers who are to be converted and return to the Catholic Church; in power, to combat the enemies of God who will rise up menacingly to seduce and crush by promises and threats all those who oppose them; finally, she must shine forth in grace to inspire and support the valiant soldiers and loyal servants of Jesus Christ who are fighting for his cause.”

“St. Thomas assures us that, following the order established by his divine Wisdom, God ordinarily imparts his graces to men through Mary. Therefore, if we wish to go to him, seeking union with him, we must use the same means which he used in coming down from heaven to assume our human nature and to impart his graces to us. That means was a complete dependence on Mary his Mother, which is true devotion to her.”

”http://www.ncregister.com/blog/joseph-pronechen/on-his-300th-anniveresary-21-things-louis-de-montfort-said-about-the-r1

65 posted on 02/18/2017 8:12:42 PM PST by ealgeone
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