In post #68 you said, “Yes, but Israel includes all who keep Torah, not just genetic Israel, so it becomes a much larger body of believers, possibly billions today.
But those that call themselves Christian, yet reject Torah, are not a part thereof.”
I was simply reminding you in my post #75 about what the term “keep Torah” means. I mentioned only three things: keeping kosher, keeping the Sabbath and circumcision. Every single one of those things, plus a great deal more, is involved in keeping Torah. For your information, circumcision is not for just the circumstances where a Jew is born in the land of Israel. It is a covenant for all time between G-d and the Jews. Even the most non-observant of Jews in the furthest reaches of the world have kept circumcision throughout the ages, even under conditions of extreme oppression. Oh, and by the way, it is most certainly not “fake news.” The only fake news is the claim that it no longer applies.
Now, I might add that all of the requirements of the Torah, except those mentioned in the chapter dealing with Noah’s Flood, apply to Jews alone. Those mentioned with relation to the Flood apply to all people (and even applied to the ancestors of those who would become Jews until the time of Abraham). They are commonly known as the Noahide Laws, and they were reiterated at Mount Sinai so as to positively indicate that they still applied to all of those people who did not accept Judaism. There are seven of them, which I will not a detail here, but they are a great deal more intricate and sophisticated than seven brief statements regarding acceptable behavior. If anyone other than a Jew abides by the Noahide Laws, they have earned themselves a place in “the World to Come,” which is more commonly known in the non-Jewish world as Heaven. In other words, Judaism does not pretend to be an exclusive religion like Islam and Christianity, both of which claim that the only path to Heaven is through a belief in their respective saviors. This is why it is supposed to be, and is in practice in the Orthodox Jewish world, very difficult to convert to Judaism. It entails many more obligations, and a higher set of ethical standards, than being a non-Jew. In Judaism, there is no condemnation of a person because they choose to stay in the (non-Jewish) religion of their family, just a hope that every person of whatever faith will act in a civil and ethical manner toward their fellow human beings and animals, and respect the role of G-d in Creation and our lives. Here is an explanation of the Noahide Laws: http://www.chabad.org/therebbe/article_cdo/aid/62221/jewish/Universal-Morality.htm
As to your assertion that there are literally billions of people who qualify for Heaven now, I would make the argument that the potential is most certainly there for everyone, and that it would likely be easier for someone who believed in some monotheistic religion other than Judaism to so qualify. However, the seven Noahide Laws seem to be pretty clear (to me) that only G-d is to be acknowledged as the Creator of the heavens and earth, and to be worshipped. That would, IMHO, necessarily exclude anyone from full conformity with the Noahide Laws if they worship any other being, or believe that any other being besides G-d Himself has Divine attributes. I am very well aware that this would also necessarily invoke extraordinairily strong disagreement from any believing Christian. Such is the exact reason why Jews and Christians are adherents of separate religions, because on this issue there is a disagreement that literally cannot be resolved - not until the End Times, anyway. Please be aware that I say these things either as a statement of facts, or of my sincere beliefs. I do not, repeat do not, say them for the purpose of insulting anyone. However, Jews, and particularly our sages over the long history of the Jewish people, have the right and obligation to interpret our own scriptures, and we bow before no one in our rock-solid belief that we know our own scriptures better than those of other religions. I am personally not of the belief that my very, very distant cousin, the carpenter, was in any way more Divine than any other human being who has existed or ever will exist. Again, no insult intended, this is merely a statement of my beliefs, which I share with all authentic Jews of the present time and of all times.
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No you do not understand Torah.
The circumcision was only for those in the land before the perfect sacrifice was complete.
When Messiach was crucified, that was the end of circumcision.
After that there was no Hebrew, and no Gentile in the Kingdom of Yehova. WE are now under the renewed covenant, where circumcision is of the heart.
Anyway, there are very few that have not been circumcised on the 8th day. Its been standard practice in Europe, and in all the British colonies.
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