Posted on 01/17/2017 1:43:37 PM PST by ebb tide
“The same delusion can have many names...”
I suppose they all end up the same way, but, no these are distinct paths to Hell.
And since you want to find someone to blame, you should not leave out Rome against the Jews.
See above, by God’s grace.
In fairness, the Papists were also very hostile to Jews at the time, and the Jews at that time were also praying in synagogues for the death and enslavement of Gentiles, and theirs Rabbis claimed that Christ was burning in a vat of feces for all eternity. The Ultra- Orthodox Jews still to this day spit on Gentiles when they enter their neighborhoods. And they don't do any sort of work, either, but live off the state.
Luther's reaction to this, however, wasn't racial, since he used Jewish converts to make his arguments.
I don’t thank your “god” for anything.
I think you're better than that, FRamigo. I'll let it go.
Nah. This is your spin. Your Vatican and its stamp department apparently doesn't even agree with your post.
Perhaps you should consult your Pope first and then get back to us.
Hundreds of millions of souls in heaven now by the grace of God - through the recovery of His Glorious Gospel, which he used flawed sinner Father Luther to recover.
Again, I think you are better than that remark, ebb tide.
As a believer in Christ, I certainly won't respond in kind and not even in my heart.
I will point out you have just "made it personal" - a violation of FR Religion Forum guidelines.
Thanks for the link.
I didn’t realize Jews had been so persecuted.
The author of that, Theodore Shoebat, strikes me as a kook.
How is what Luther did anything different than what you are doing against this pope? Have you ever read the ‘Song of Moses’? Their ‘rock’ is NOT our ‘Rock’? Hint, John wrote those that overcome will be singing the ‘Song of Moses’. Do you know the ‘song’?
I don't know...
If their Pope became a FReeper; an awful lot of their posts would be considered personal; I’ll bet!
“The Ultra- Orthodox Jews still to this day spit on Gentiles when they enter their neighborhoods”
1. There is no such thing as “ultra-Orthodox” outside the pages of Haaretz.
2. With one exception*, I have never seen hostility, even in old city Jerusalem, against Gentiles who are modestly dressed and polite. Now, if you show up wearing short-shorts and a bikini top and expect to not get hassled at the Western Wall, then you are in for a surprise. People who would not dress like tramps in their church at home somehow think it is OK to show up where people are praying abroad dressed as tramps. It’s rude and will probably get a rude response.
* The exception being the anti-Zionist Satmar Hasidic group who are hateful to everyone, except the Imans in Iran. Of course, they are most hateful to other Jewish people.
3. Since the days of Maimonides in 1135 CE, Christianity has been deemed by basically all Jewish people an acceptable religion for Gentiles, as it certainly conforms to the Noahadic laws, accepts the Torah as true, and points towards the Mosiach, however (from the Jewish perspective) prematurely.
Not to mention attacking women and children who enter Men Only areas! You're minimizing the reality of things.
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