Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
Do you think that God has not? If so, what would make you so sure?
Are you one of Christ's apostles? You had just recently asserted that only those apostles had authority to hear confession (and in other comments you spoke of absolution).
If so...is it you who are "retaining", as "retaining" thus withholding forgiveness for what you apparently consider "a sin"(?).
There are passages of Scripture which indicate that we all must forgive sins; Mark 11:26
Matthew 6:14-15 (NASB)
What now? Label whatever it is the man has done (which you demonstrate that you perhaps think is needing God to "get over it") is not "transgression" per se, but some other type of "sin" -- a differing definition stretched for (possibly even insisted upon) in order to provide needful additional wiggle room for snake-y Catholic theological explanations (and the resulting verdict of damnation pronounced for those in disagreement with the snakes)?
I have found forgiveness of my own sins, far outside the (theologically speaking) narrow confines of Catholicism.
Do you have a problem with that, beyond possibly mere jealousy, that is?
I am not alone in this. You've already been told how it can be known that one is forgiven, of God (without a so-called priest saying the words).
Perhaps...you may be underestimating the Holy Spirit?
As some [Greek] Orthodox might put it (and have, upon occasion) for this exact kind of context;
But;
we cannot say where the spirit of the Lord is not.
If your wife had the power claimed by Cath priests, she could says some words over that stew and it would no longer exist, but it would still tastes like it. And it would still gain you weight, and otherwise effect you as real stew, like non-existent Eucharistic bread affects gluten-intolerant Catholics, as does the non-existent wine if you drink enough of it. Instead, that stew would be whatever your wife said it was turned into, despite appearances and effects and evidences to the contrary.
But of course what really does not exist is the Catholic church in the NT, despite her claims to the contrary.
Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things? (Acts 4:25)
I reject nothing in the Bible either. Don’t you see what a waste that was? Two perfectly good post numbers wasted on confirming the obvious.
Isn’t what you really want is for me to agree with your denomination’s self-serving interpretation of that passage in John? Because if that is the case, no, I don’t agree, and I’ve already said somewhere earlier that the passages in question do NOT discuss succession and cannot contradict Hebrews which says there’s no more intermediate priesthood.
So if that’s where you really want to go, just go there. Everybody here is committed to believing Scripture to the best of their ability.
Peace,
SR
How do you know those sins were forgiven? Did you get a receipt?
No, I just want all of us to go Heaven.
By the way, where did I interpret John:20. I quoted the Bible, nothing more.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.Peace,
(John 3:16-18)
The Scripture you quoted didn’t prove your point. So what am I supposed to do with that?
Peace,
SR
Amen!
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.(John 17:17)
So are you implying there’s no need of confession of sins for any christian?
Remember, both you and I have been quoting the same John.
And if one “believes in Him”, he will obey His commandments. Christ did not breath on everyone to forgive sins, did He?
Pax
Here it is again:
[21] He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. [22] When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.
Do with it what you will. Reject or accept it.
A blank check, huh? How long is it good for?
Yes, He did.
How do you know that?
Before you ask myself questions, expecting me to answer those, it's only fair to say to you that you are running quite a backlog of needing answer questions which I have put to you.
Besides, the answer to the question which you just posed, was given some amount of explanation, already. I do not believe that any further answer would suit you, if it not fit within your own preconceptions.
Those who have been baptized in the Spirit (not merely only the water) could possibly understand, though.
When you return to the question (about John the Baptist) Christ posed to the Pharisees who were questioning his own authority (to preach), then that could be accepted as near to full payment to myself towards your own backlog of questions posed to you, but thus far have been left entirely unanswered.
But your question does bring to mind yet another set, too.
Will you need show printed(?) receipts to Christ in order to secure entry into His everlasting kingdom? Perhaps wave those receipts around in the air, when or if some dark spirits attempt to (as they attempted to do to Moses) drag your body off to some place? Would doing so ward off those demons?
As do we alll.
Sorry. Can't help you with that one. Why don't y'all talk amongst yourselves.
Which one?
The question Jesus asked, or the ones about your possibly holding printed receipts?
Would they pin them to your chest like medals, before lowering one into a grave?
It is all in the little brown things the Mary of Catholicism supposedly honors on their behalf, in their ‘other religion’ dontchaknow.
Not blank. Just enough. He knows what we owe,, after all, down to the last penny.
Peace,
SR
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