Posted on 12/29/2016 8:19:15 AM PST by Read Write Repeat
Rabbi Tovia Singer responds to a former Arab Muslim woman regarding her conversion to Conservative Judaism.
That it was written by Moses, and is part of the wholly inspired word of God, providing the covenant God made with Israel after the Lord led them out of left Egypt, and which they broke. And foretold of Christ, and that whoever will not take heed to His words shall be cut off. (Dt. 18:18,19)
And that what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (Romans 8:3-4)
Now honestly tell us what you say about the New Testament and Christ?
“As are your apparent beliefs about the basic Christian faith.”
As far as I’m concerned, JC preached about charity, kindness, and many other Jewish teachings. I encounter many Evangelical Christians who have a genuine love for Israel and Jews because of this.
Christians have their various interpretations of the Hebrew Bible which makes each unique, yet have a common belief that unites them. Your disputes with each other on doctrine and practice are *your* disputes. Jews have nothing to do with it.
What brings about interfaith dialogue is Torah because it’s usually the one thing we can all agree on. For example, we’re the ones who spend thousands of years examining Exodus where it’s not just slavery, plagues, etc. We’re concerned with what happened all through the forty years and everything that happened afterwards.
Our rabbis — including Singer — are concerned with educating and creating Jewish homes and bringing Jews back to living a life according to Torah. We’re not missionaries to Christians, Muslims, Shinto, Hindu, etc.
Hillel’s Golden Rule: That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn.
“That it was written by Moses, and is part of the wholly inspired word of God, providing the covenant God made with Israel after the Lord led them out of left Egypt”
Thanks for sharing your opinion. The Reform Judaism movement agrees with you.
The rest of your statement is your Evangelical Christian opinion, and definitely not something Jews agree with.
More evasion as i see it. Based on what i have read, your beliefs about the basic Christian faith include those i asked you to affirm or deny, and ignoring them only serves to confirm that you do. Saying some nice things about some preaching of "JC" is a poor substitute.
HMMMmmm...
Matthew 10:34 NIV
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
HMMMmmm...
Fellow Jews seemed to think that He gave a different impression to those around Him.
I've noticed.
THIS is the whole of Christianity:
John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
Then it is NOT 'opinion'; is it?
It's worked for Mormons and other cults...
It's worked for MormonISM and other cults...
But if he didn’t do teshuvah, the scapegoat would only atone for light sins.
Don't like THIS:
Deuteronomy 18:15-19 (NIV)
15 The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him. 16 For this is what you asked of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, “Let us not hear the voice of the Lord our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die.”
17 The Lord said to me: “What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name.
as being a indication of Jesus of Nazareth; eh?
Well then; has this 'prophet' appeared yet or are you guys still waiting for him?
More mere evasion, which attempts only further marginalizes you. I will leave you to your disguise.
Remember: I’m not the one trying to crucify a rabbi.
Jewish Attitudes Toward Non-Jews
Judaism maintains that the righteous of all nations have a place in the world to come. This has been the majority rule since the days of the Talmud. Judaism generally recognizes that Christians and Moslems worship the same G-d that we do and those who follow the tenets of their religions can be considered righteous in the eyes of G-d.
Contrary to popular belief, Judaism does not maintain that Jews are better than other people. Although we refer to ourselves as G-d’s chosen people, we do not believe that G-d chose the Jews because of any inherent superiority. According to the Talmud (Avodah Zarah 2b), G-d offered the Torah to all the nations of the earth, and the Jews were the only ones who accepted it. The story goes on to say that the Jews were offered the Torah last, and accepted it only because G-d held a mountain over their heads! (In Ex. 19:17, the words generally translated as “at the foot of the mountain” literally mean “underneath the mountain”!) Another traditional story suggests that G-d chose the Jewish nation because they were the lowliest of nations, and their success would be attributed to G-d’s might rather than their own ability. Clearly, these are not the ideas of a people who think they are better than other nations.
Because of our acceptance of Torah, Jews have a special status in the eyes of G-d, but we lose that special status when we abandon Torah. Furthermore, the blessings that we received from G-d by accepting the Torah come with a high price: Jews have a greater responsibility than non-Jews. While non-Jews are only obligated to obey the seven commandments given to Noah, Jews are responsible for fulfilling the 613 mitzvot in the Torah, thus G-d will punish Jews for doing things that would not be a sin for non-Jews.
http://www.jewfaq.org/gentiles.htm
Killing a human being as a sin atonement to Hashem is completely against Torah.
Although I too am not a theologian, I am still confident enough to state that I believe if examined by anyone, the prohibition in the Torah against human sacrifice does not apply to the Sacrifice of Jesus. This is because, I believe, in the Torah, the prohibition is to prohibit the common activity of pagans at the time who sacrificed human beings forcefully, against their will, to gain favor with their gods.
This is not the case with the One Sacrifice of Calvary. That Sacrifice was willingly accepted by the Son as His Father's Holy Will. Indeed, while He prayed “this cup pass over me” He also prayed “not my will but your will be done”. It was His choice to Sacrifice Himself for everyone else. This is significantly different than the pagan practice of the day. Thus, it is not against Torah. In fact, I would argue it is in compliance with Torah.
I believe you said upthread in another post something to the effect that the entire Torah is summed up in the Golden Rule. Jesus Himself said this as well, but also when asked the same question 2000 years ago, in addition to restating the Golden Rule you quoted He also said the entire Law is first to “love God with all your heart and understanding”, then “love your neighbor as yourself” (a positive restatement of the Golden Rule you quoted).
Thus Jesus obeyed Torah to the end, not only “loving (His) neighbor as Himself” (by sacrificing himself for others’ sake) but also by “loving God (the Father) with all His heart” (by complying with His Holy Will that He lay down His life for all men).
No; rather than being contrary to Torah, His Sacrifice was in perfect obedience to it.
Polite intentions: that is *your* doctrine which has many forums for discussion here. We don’t want you to cease being whatever religion you are. We want you to be righteous and live wonderful lives.
That was the point of this thread: to show people they don’t have to convert or leave their church or whatever. We love you just how you are.
Judaism is a very small silo with even tinier silos within that compared to non-Jews. It would be nice to be able to have a discussion about it and answer any questions from Gentiles.
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