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To: TexasFreeper2009; metmom

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The word says plainly that everything that was created was created by the Son.

Why reach for garbage when the cream is in your hand?
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20 posted on 12/03/2016 7:53:46 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

he could be the creator and still be a separate being.

was is it so hard to conceive of the possibility that God and Jesus could be two separate beings in heaven?

Why would Jesus pray to himself? how can he be standing to the right of God if he is God? It seems reasonable to assume the possibility exists that they are not one in the same.

And if they are not ... I am proposing a belief system that allows us Christians to still believe that Jesus came to earth and died for our sins, that he we need only accept him as our savior and lord to earn eternal salvation. God has the power to create a son in heaven if he so wished, God has the power to allow that son to come to earth to die for our sins, and to allow that son to be the final decider on who does or does not get to come to heaven.

All I am saying is that Jesus does not have to be God for God to have given him all the power and authority necessary to grant us salvation.


21 posted on 12/03/2016 8:02:13 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: editor-surveyor

So you are saying (using separate and distinct, trinity logic), that the Father didn’t do any creating?

Suggested reading: Isaiah 42: 1-7 KJV


26 posted on 12/03/2016 10:14:40 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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