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To: WhatNot
Osee 11:12 Ephraim hath compassed me about with denials, and the house of Israel with deceit : but Juda went down as a witness with God, and is faithful with the saints.

If fine with me and since reading through the Douay Rheims side by side with the KJV I'll stick with that or even,

Hosea 11:12 Ephraim has encompassed me with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit; but Judah is still known by God, and is faithful to the Holy One.

from the RSV instead of the KJV.

272 posted on 10/22/2016 7:57:44 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin
Stick with them if you must, but they'll lead astray, the verse meaning has been changed in both the translations, you go with

KJV
Hosea 11:12
Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints.

Osee 11:12
Ephraim hath compassed me about with denials, and the house of Israel with deceit : but Juda went down as a witness with God, and is faithful with the saints.

Lie - (a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.)

Denials - (an assertion that something said, believed, alleged, etc., is false:)" the D R version could lead you to believe that God is accusing wicked Ephraim of something they did not do, in other words making God the liar, planting that little, tiny seed of doubt, in your mind, very, what's the word? Oh yeah, SUBTIL.

Instead of what the KJV plainly says, that Ephraim was flat out lying about their wickedness.

KJV
Hosea 11:12
Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints.

Compass - (the limits of any area;), God has a limit on just how much wickedness/deception He will put up with.

RSV
Hosea 11:12
Ephraim has encompassed me with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit; but Judah is still known by God, and is faithful to the Holy One.

Encompass - (form a circle about, encircle, surround)The meaning suggests you can surround God, with lies, and who knows maybe if you surround Him with enough lies, maybe you can get away with it.

Now, I'm sure you will say, "Well, you're just splitting hairs," the problem with that view is that if you multiply the changes made by the NWO bible translators, thousands of times, you'll be left with no solid doctrine at all on which to stand.

And that is exactly what the NWO wants for you. No protection at all from the anti-christ, and his flood of evil that's going to come upon the earth someday.

Pray for Bible Revival in the Church Houses.

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273 posted on 10/22/2016 9:38:55 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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