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To: skr
The laity as a whole failed the Church first, this is the result.

The sheep have been more than happy to have lax shepherds and unwilling to challenge them if they were unhappy. They just melted away leaving the Church of Nice full of heretics.

Even the shock and awe over heresy is often the loudest from those who no longer attend Church anyway but do love being shocked and awed.

JMHo

9 posted on 10/09/2016 4:24:06 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin
The laity as a whole failed the Church first, this is the result.

Really now? Tell me, where did the Catholic laity cause Vatican II? No, this was 100% the hierarchy's fault. The only blame the laity has is that they went along with it (even though so many knew something was terribly wrong with the new religion). Having said that, I understand why they did what they did 50 years ago. Now? Not so much.

14 posted on 10/09/2016 5:57:23 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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