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Pope Francis calls woman with sex-change operation a ‘man’ and calls partners ‘married’
Life Site News ^ | October 3, 2016 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 10/03/2016 6:23:21 AM PDT by ebb tide

Despite the Vatican’s assertion that a so-called sex-change surgery does not alter the sex of a person, Pope Francis has nevertheless chosen to refer to a woman who underwent a sex-change operation as a “man,” and also referred to her as having “married” another woman and admitted to receiving them in the Vatican last year.

As with most of his most controversial remarks, the statements came during an in-flight press scrum. On October 2, on his return flight from his papal visit to Georgia and Azerbaijan, the Pope referred to a woman who “felt like a man” but “was physically a young woman.” After a sex-change surgery in her twenties, Pope Francis said, “he got married.”

"He wrote me a letter saying that, for him, it would be a consolation to come [see me] with his wife," the pope said. “I received them and they were very happy," Pope Francis added. Clarifying his use of pronouns, the pope said, "He that was her but is he." (translation by Josh McElwee, the NCR reporter who asked the question)

Pope Francis drew a distinction between his frequent condemnation of teaching ‘gender theory’ to young children in classrooms and welcoming, accompanying, and integrating a person who has “this tendency” and even has “a sex change.”

The meeting of the Pope with the woman with the sex-change surgery and her female partner took place in January 2015 and while it was widely reported in the media with photos, the Vatican refused comment. The woman, now called Diego Neria Lejarraga, said the pope had surprised her by calling her twice out of the blue in December 2014. Neria had written to Francis complaining of rejection from the local parish after she had undergone “gender reassignment.”

Neria said that it was Pope Francis who asked for the meeting, telling her that he would make the arrangement and call her back. Francis welcomed the two into his private suite at Domus Santa Marta to what she said was a “strictly private meeting.”

In her letter to the Pope, Neria had specifically noted that she felt excluded from the Church because of her decision, and that she was now “afraid” to receive Communion. She did not tell the media what the pope said on the matter, only mentioning that he embraced her. However, Pope Francis’ own recollection of the matter deals with Communion.

The Pope spoke of an old retired priest who welcomed Neria and a young new pastor who was harsh. "When the new pastor would see him, he would shout to him from the sidewalk: 'You will go to Hell.'" Francis said. “But when he'd meet his old priest, he would say to him, 'How long has it been since you've confessed? Come on, confess so you can take Communion.'” (translation by the US Bishops’ Catholic News Service)

In 2000, the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith issued confidential guidance to bishops noting that ‘sex-change’ procedures do not alter a person’s gender. The document instructed bishops never to alter the sex listed in parish baptismal records and said Catholics who have undergone "sex-change" procedures are not eligible to marry because in the eyes of the Church they would be marrying someone of the same sex.

A literal translation of the Pope’s full remarks and the question issued by Catholic News Agency follows:

Josh McElwee, National Catholic Reporter: Thank you, Holy Father. In that same speech yesterday in Georgia, you spoke, as in so many other countries about gender theory, saying that it is a great enemy and a threat against marriage. But, I would like to ask you, what would you say to someone who has struggled with their sexuality for years and feels that there is truly a problem of biology, that his aspect doesn't correspond to what he or she feels is their sexual identity. You, as a pastor and minister, how would you accompany these people?

Pope Francis: First of all: in my life as a priest and bishop, even as Pope, I have accompanied people with homosexual tendencies, I have also met homosexual persons, accompanied them, brought them closer to the Lord, as an apostle, and I have never abandoned them. People must be accompanied as Jesus accompanies them, when a person who has this condition arrives before Jesus, Jesus surely doesn't tell them 'go away because you are homosexual.' What I said is that wickedness which today is done in the indoctrination of gender theory...a French father told me that he was speaking with his children at the table, he and his wife were Catholics, 'rosewater Catholics,' but Catholics! And he asked his 10-year-old son: 'What do you want to be when you grow up?'- 'a girl.' The father realized that at school they were teaching him gender theory, and this is against the natural things. One thing is that a person has this tendency, this condition and even changes their sex, but it's another thing to teach this in line in schools in order to change the mentality. This is what I call ideological colonization. Last year I received a letter from a Spaniard who told me his story as a child, a young man, he was a girl, a girl who suffered so much because he felt he felt like a boy, but was physically a girl. He told his mother and the mom…(the girl) was around 22 years old said that she would like to do the surgical intervention and all of those things. And the mother said not to do it while she was still alive. She was elderly and she died soon after. She had the surgery and an employee of a ministry in the city of Spain went to the bishop, who accompanied (this person) a lot. Good bishop. I spent time accompanying this man. Then (the man) got married, he changed his civil identity, got married and wrote me a letter saying that for him it would be a consolation to come with his wife, he who was she, but him! I received them: they were happy and in the neighborhood where he lived there was an elderly priest in his 80s, an elderly pastor who left the parish and helped the sisters in the parish. And there was the new (priest). When the new one he would yell from the sidewalk: 'you'll go to hell!' When he (CNA suggests this refers to the new priest but CNS and NCR suggest it refers to the woman) came across the old one, he would say: 'How long has it been since you confessed? Come, come, let's to so that I can confess you and you can receive communion.' Understood? (emphasis LifeSite)

Life is life and things must be taken as they come. Sin is sin. And tendencies or hormonal imbalances have many problems and we must be careful not to say that everything is the same. Let's go party. No, that no, but in every case I accept it, I accompany it, I study it, I discern it and I integrate it. This is what Jesus would do today! Please don't say: 'the Pope sanctifies transgenders.' Please, eh! Because I see the covers of the papers. Is there any doubt as to what I said? I want to be clear! It's moral problem. It's a human problem and it must be resolved always can be with the mercy of God, with the truth like we spoke about in the case of marriage by reading all of Amoris Laetitia, but always with an open heart. And don't forget that chapter Vézelay, it's very beautiful, eh! Very beautiful.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: eunuchs; francischurch; homosexualagenda; popefrancis; religiousleft
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1 posted on 10/03/2016 6:23:22 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Is he nuts???


2 posted on 10/03/2016 6:28:28 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: ebb tide

This Pope is so weird.


3 posted on 10/03/2016 6:29:29 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: txrefugee

No.

He’s just worried about his own nuts.


4 posted on 10/03/2016 6:29:29 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Global warming is the number-one cause of climate change documentaries.)
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To: ebb tide
We live in interesting times.

The apocryphal Chinese curse came true.

5 posted on 10/03/2016 6:30:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: txrefugee

Yup.
He’s nuts about eunuchs.
Has sort of a sick pope Francis ring to it.


6 posted on 10/03/2016 6:35:10 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck?Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

True. And now this just adds fuel to the liberal “Faith/Justice” committee at our parish.


7 posted on 10/03/2016 6:35:21 AM PDT by stevio (God,Guns,Guts.)
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To: ebb tide

Pope playing with fire.


8 posted on 10/03/2016 6:36:15 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: ebb tide

WWJPS? [What Would John Paul Say?] Nothing good, I’d bet...


9 posted on 10/03/2016 6:38:57 AM PDT by W. (The plot of Magnum Force comes to mind...)
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To: ebb tide

Pope Francis meeting with woman who underwent sex-change surgery (to right of pope) and her 'wife' (to left of pope.)

10 posted on 10/03/2016 6:39:57 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome, but it's not the first one.)
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To: ebb tide
As with most of his most controversial remarks, the statements came during an in-flight press scrum.

Why is this? Maybe in flight brandy. I have nothing.

11 posted on 10/03/2016 6:40:30 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: onedoug

Very much so, he is getting ignored by most people I know.

As one of the earlier posters said we truly are in interesting times.


12 posted on 10/03/2016 6:41:30 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: txrefugee

Perhaps he wishes to “Fundamentally Transform” Catholicism.


13 posted on 10/03/2016 6:43:25 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ebb tide

“the Pope referred to a woman who “felt like a man” but “was physically a young woman.”

This cracks me up. If one hasn’t the plumbing or the hormones, how can they have a clue what it feels like to be the opposite sex? To humor this person, acknowledging their delusion as sound thinking is a disservice to that person.


14 posted on 10/03/2016 6:50:51 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory.)
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To: ebb tide

This pope is a dope.

His place in hell is reserved.


15 posted on 10/03/2016 6:53:31 AM PDT by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: ebb tide

Probably would have treated them better if they were Muslim


16 posted on 10/03/2016 7:11:11 AM PDT by Mitchy
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To: Army Air Corps

That’s exactly why the NWO installed the fake Pope.


17 posted on 10/03/2016 7:14:35 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: ebb tide
Memo to Pope:

Biology 101: X+X = Girl; X+Y = guy

There is no other.

18 posted on 10/03/2016 8:04:20 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: txrefugee
Is he nuts???

That goes without saying.

I honestly think he is a homosexual himself.

19 posted on 10/03/2016 8:08:36 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: stockpirate

And it will be a hotter place in hell, considering how influential he is with millions who place a lot of authority in his words.


20 posted on 10/03/2016 8:10:43 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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