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To: Gamecock

** They are manipulated by man rather than born of God, and it has filled our churches with false converts,” he said. **

Ummm-Hmm.


2 posted on 09/30/2016 11:37:02 AM PDT by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)
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To: Gamecock

** They are manipulated by man rather than born of God, and it has filled our churches with false converts,” he said. **

I firmly agree with him on that. Here is a great analogy explaining why I no longer believe in ECT:

Suppose for a moment that a wonderful man—Mr. Right, if you will—offers a marriage proposal to the woman he loves. “Marry me,” he says, “and I will give you a life like you’ve never dreamed of before. You will be loved with the greatest commitment and passion that any woman has ever known. I will give you the finest house with all of the wonderful things you’ve ever wanted, and you will be happy for the rest of your days!”

Now suppose the woman is very flattered by the proposal, but is uncertain about whether or not she is ready for such a commitment. Asking for a few more days to think it over, Mr. Right answers, “You are welcome to take more time, but it’s only fair that I warn you what will happen if you decline my generous offer. Your only option, other than spending paradise with me, is to be thrown into my underground dungeon, have your eyes gouged from their sockets, and be subjected to unimaginable pain every hour, on the hour, for the rest of your long, miserable life.”

What do you suppose would be going through the young woman’s mind at a time like this? I imagine that would change the way she feels about the man considerably. She might have previously accepted Mr. Right’s proposal because of her love for him, but is there much chance of that now? Surely not. If she takes him seriously, she’ll undoubtedly marry him, but not as much for love as out of genuine terror at the alternative.

Is this God’s way of doing things?


4 posted on 09/30/2016 11:45:31 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Gamecock

Salvation is the most personal act between a person and God. It is entered into in the quiet of one’s soul. No one can lead another to salvation. One can only be saved by being found by God in the most desperate need of His grace.


5 posted on 09/30/2016 11:46:36 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Stop the Left and save the world.)
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To: Gamecock
Might better be said "who" is the one knocking......I wouldn't call this manipulation......keep it simple.


56 posted on 10/01/2016 8:58:39 AM PDT by caww
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