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To: marshmallow
First, I am not Catholic.

The Church has dealt with this problem for centuries by granting annulments, annulments have been granted for people with children and married for several decades. The beauty of annulment is that once the Church realizes that there is not really a marriage, and likely never really was one then all can realize a mistake was made and the marriage removed.

Annulments don't work for everyone, mostly one of the partners has to be condemn-able, if both are amicable then the priest will likely try to talk them back into a good married relationship. When there is a separation for cause then likely there is only one who will ever come back to church anyway so the annulment is usually granted. The annulment is not simple. Many letters have to be written and several clergy must make a decision. I would like to see The church make annulments easier, that way there is no change, then the queers and others can't cry foul.

3 posted on 09/18/2016 6:07:16 PM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig

For Tim Kaine to “speak for” the Catholic Church is like Bill Clinton speaking for rape victims.
Kaine is a CINO (Catholic In Name Only)


4 posted on 09/18/2016 6:15:36 PM PDT by SteveO87
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To: JAKraig
First, I am not Catholic. The Church has dealt with this problem for centuries by granting annulments, annulments have been granted for people with children and married for several decades. The beauty of annulment is that once the Church realizes that there is not really a marriage, and likely never really was one then all can realize a mistake was made and the marriage removed.
Annulments don't work for everyone, mostly one of the partners has to be condemn-able, if both are amicable then the priest will likely try to talk them back into a good married relationship. When there is a separation for cause then likely there is only one who will ever come back to church anyway so the annulment is usually granted. The annulment is not simple. Many letters have to be written and several clergy must make a decision. I would like to see The church make annulments easier, that way there is no change, then the queers and others can't cry foul.

Since homosexuals make up only .5 -1.5% of the population, their lifestyle makes almost NO impact on the general life of ANYONE. They are less than a blip on any radar. So anything the Church does/says regarding them is of minimal importance to the rest of us.

The Catholic Church is 2000 years old, based on Judaism, which goes back a long time. From Google
Abraham (who was first called Abram) was born in the year 1948 after Creation (1813 BCE). (According to one tradition he was born in the month of Nissan; according to another, in the month of Tishrei). His father's name, as you all know, was Terah, who was seventy years old when Abraham was born.

My point: The Catholic Church will NOT change its stance, no matter who screams, yells or sets fire to himself. It can't. It must hold to the truths of its founder: Jesus. He IS the Messiah, the Jewish Messiah and OUR Savior who promised to save ALL of us...even Democrats and the Clintons.

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I know of an annulment almost first hand. An old high school classmate married a man who beat the holy pie out of her. She was SURE that she couldn't get an annulment. They had FIVE children. All her family and friends urged, begged and pleaded with her to speak with a priest about annulment.
FINALLY, she did.

The Church found that her husband NEVER intended on keeping his marriage vows to love and honor. He beat her from day one, AFTER the ceremony and continued throughout all the pleading from BOTH families.
So, because of HIS lies about his vows, the marriage was NOT valid. She got an annulment and it took two years.

She is now remarried to a very nice guy and couldn't be happier. It was nice to have a happy ending.

7 posted on 09/18/2016 8:27:10 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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