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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Gamecock
"God provided inspired Scripture that includes all a Christians needs for salvation and maturity."

Gotta agree with that --- with the exception of implication that it's ONLY Scripture that we need. Scripture itself never tells us it is "all" we need. Quite the contrary, Scripture --- which is permanently authoritative --- tells us the Church is the foundation of Truth. In fact, the Church is the foundation of Scripture, and not t'other way around.

The Bible tells me so.

212 posted on 08/10/2016 11:05:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the Truth." - 1 Timothy 3:15)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“with the exception of implication that it’s ONLY Scripture that we need. Scripture itself never tells us it is “all” we need.

Scripture says it contains everything we need for salvation and maturity. There is no tradition needed for either.

“Quite the contrary, Scripture -— which is permanently authoritative -— tells us the Church is the foundation of Truth.”

Meaning that the Church should uphold truth.

“In fact, the Church is the foundation of Scripture, and not t’other way around.”

Even that is distorted.

The Church should be a foundation to uphold truth and a lamp stand to shine the truth.


216 posted on 08/10/2016 12:31:48 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Scripture itself never tells us it is "all" we need.

Oh; but it DOES!


2 Peter 1:3
His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.

222 posted on 08/10/2016 2:35:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

2 Timothy 3:16-17 does however tell us Scripture is sufficient for all you claim.


229 posted on 08/10/2016 6:52:39 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The Bible tells me so.

Mary tells you something entirely different:

"The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem,

no matter how difficult it is, wheter temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families...that cannot be solved by the Rosary.

There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."

Sister Lucia dos Santos




The 15 promises

(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)

1 Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces.
2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies
4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.
7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise.
9. I  shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.
12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
13. I  have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death
14. All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
15. Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

233 posted on 08/11/2016 3:25:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Whoever shall faithfully serve me ...



234 posted on 08/11/2016 3:33:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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