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To: mdmathis6

So the Magi who saw the signs of Jesus’ birth in the heavens and came to worship Him were what? The day of Palm Sunday can be calculated using the prophesy in Daniel and the date given in Nehamiah. Jesus wept over Jerusalem because the Jews did not do the calculation and welcome Him as the Massiah. So how do you think He is going to feel about those who ignore a sign He has put in His Revelation that tells of His Second Coming?


17 posted on 07/30/2016 8:02:52 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: SubMareener

They saw the star “which went before them” .... it wasn’t a conjunction of 3 planets as they would only be in conjunction a day or so...this was a longer lasting phenomena that most folks didn’t seem to pay attention to. They also were learned folk and knew that a coming savior was coming...that and the Holy Spirit prompts that said”hey pay attention to that star over there...a la Paul”in times past god winked at those who of other nations”>

There is no specific indication in the bible that because the people didn’t calculate from the heavens Jesus’ arrival that he wept...there were other signs he displayed that should have told them who he was. He was weeping specifically over their spiritual condition. The timing from Daniel and Nehimiah you mention was not just from signs in the heavens but from prophecy starting with the rebuilding of the temple until the 69th week of years until the prince was ‘cut off”. I don’t dispute the use of the stars and moon to help fix holidays and feast days and the like as well as to make corrections in the Jews 360 day calendar. But the use of the stars to foretell the future....in light of what Christ said about the timing of the end and his coming...”No one knows the hour save the father in heaven!”. There is too much of this sort of Christianized astrological prophecy stuff going on with nothing happening to show for it...lots of convincing things being said for years and years only nothing comes of it. So I’m skeptical!

There are specific things though that the Bible tells us to look for that will be notable for everyone , there will be no way for us to deny what we are seeing or to explain them away, things that will definitely tell us that we are in the last days...the signs as well as the disasters occurring on Earth will reinforce the notion that Jesus is soon to come in great power and judgment! The whole constellation of virgo thingy...ehhh not so sure. The passage of the sign of a woman speaks of a woman who is protected, the child is caught up, and she then goes into hiding to prepare for a a time, 2 times, and a half time”. I think John was speaking symbolically...it says he saw the sign...it doesn’t say that we on Earth will see the sign he saw. I think we see the sign as we look at church history... the only thing left is the swallowing up of the “flood” by the Earth and the hiding of the woman for three and half years to prepare”. The dragon at the mean time “is wroth” and continues to war against her seed(reference Eve and Genesis).


20 posted on 07/30/2016 11:10:43 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (BEWARE THE ABORTION POLITICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!)
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