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POLISH BISHOPS VOW TO REFUSE COMMUNION TO DIVORCED AND REMARRIEDS [Cath Caucus]
The Tablet ^ | July 28, 2016 | Christopher Lamb

Posted on 07/28/2016 10:15:50 AM PDT by ebb tide

Announcement highlights tensions between Francis and Polish hierarchy after closed door meeting last night

A senior bishop has said that the Church in Poland will refuse communion to divorced and remarried Catholics despite the landmark family document from Pope Francis which opened up the possibility.

Archbishop Stanislaw Gadecki, the President of the Polish Bishops’ Conference, said that giving communion could not be allowed following a period of pastoral discernment - something which Francis has advocated - adding that if remarried divorcees had a valid first marriage they cannot receive the eucharist.

His remarks came just hours after the Pope’s arrival in Krakow for a global gathering of young Catholics and highlighted the tensions between Francis and Poland’s hierarchy. “This [communion for divorced and remarried] cannot be solved in a confessional box in two minutes or even a couple of years,” the archbishop told journalists at a briefing last night. “This is a path for the priests and the laity to walk together knowing that if a marriage has been validly concluded there is no ground to administering communion to remarried divorcees.”

The archbishop cited John Paul II’s document on the family - where communion for divorced and remarried was effectively ruled out - and said that Francis’ text, issued following two synod gatherings, had taken into account the Polish hierarchy’s recommendations. These, he added, “retain the truth of the gospel that we cannot deliberately overstep Christ’s precept against divorce.”

Archbishop Gadecki also pointed to Francis’ desire for local churches to have a say: “The Holy Father says the general laws are very hard to enforce in each country - the Pope speaks about decentralisation, that is the conferences in individual countries might interpret papal encyclicals looking at their own religious and cultural situations,” Archbishop Gadecki said in a briefing to journalists last night.

On the day of his arrival the Pope had a closed-doors meeting with the bishops where no speeches were made - in the past Francis has used such gatherings in Mexico and the United States to upbraid national hierarchies. But given that the legacy of his polish predecessor John Paul II looms large during his visit the Pope sought to avoid any public clashes.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: adultery; francischurch; poland
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“This [communion for divorced and remarried] cannot be solved in a confessional box in two minutes or even a couple of years,” the archbishop told journalists at a briefing last night. “This is a path for the priests and the laity to walk together knowing that if a marriage has been validly concluded there is no ground to administering communion to remarried divorcees.”
1 posted on 07/28/2016 10:15:50 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Good for the Polish Church!

They are thereby distancing themselves from the evil Satanist who resides in the Vatican. Yet another gift from those imbecilic bishops who met at Vatican II.


2 posted on 07/28/2016 10:23:16 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and Slinkys: Good for nothing but make you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: ebb tide

Poland needs to maintain its stability. EU and NATO could be eyeing Poland as a place to send millions of refugees.


4 posted on 07/28/2016 10:36:06 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: ebb tide

I’m surprised they even let this usurper into Poland.


5 posted on 07/28/2016 10:38:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: ebb tide

The fact that this announcement comes after this closed door meeting only lends credibility to the belief that Francis absolutely wants the remarried to receive communion and, therefore, there is no doubt as to his meaning/purpose in AL.


6 posted on 07/28/2016 10:39:12 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Do you always ignore Catholic Caucus designations?


7 posted on 07/28/2016 10:40:43 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

There’s gotta be a sweet spot somewhere between the Pope’s embracing of mulims, and the Pole’s excommunication of divorce and remarried parishioners.


8 posted on 07/28/2016 10:45:31 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: ebb tide

The Masses here at WYD have been pretty orthodox.


9 posted on 07/28/2016 10:51:20 AM PDT by Shark24 (.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

This is the new ‘embrace the sodomy’ papal doctrine. Here in Boston we’ve informally been implementing it for decades with such wonderful results:http://www.bishop-accountability.org/assign/Shanley-Paul-Richard.htm


10 posted on 07/28/2016 11:01:12 AM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: Shark24
Good to hear. Are they not administering Holy Communion from plastic beer cups this time?


11 posted on 07/28/2016 11:03:04 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Exelent. Birth ratest and family happyness is about to increase in Poland.


12 posted on 07/28/2016 11:03:41 AM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

Divorce for any reason besides a wife’s unfaithfulness isn’t biblical. The poles got it right.


13 posted on 07/28/2016 11:05:20 AM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Nobody is talking about SHUNNING anybody.

You’re not a Catholic are you?


14 posted on 07/28/2016 11:12:24 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ConservativeWarrior

Nobody is being excommunicated.


15 posted on 07/28/2016 11:13:21 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ebb tide

What they SHOULD be doing is refusing communion to the Pope...


16 posted on 07/28/2016 11:14:29 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: RedWulf

This is a Catholic Caucus thread.

1) Jesus never differentiated bettween the duties of the wife and husband.

2) No behavior by either party to a valid marriage can end the marriage.


17 posted on 07/28/2016 11:17:48 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Christ had this “go and sin no more” thing that was so judgemental by the standards of today’s liberal church goers.

Divorced Catholics can go through a process called annulment. But that would mean acknowledging their sin and working to keep from repeating it. Every Catholic who gets a divorce isn’t being refused communion here. Only the unrepentant. I know that whole repentance concept sticks in a lot of people’s craw.


18 posted on 07/28/2016 11:18:01 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: HomerBohn

If Poland wasn’t stuck between Germany and Russia, I’d move there!


19 posted on 07/28/2016 11:19:42 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: HomerBohn

Well a pox on the woman at the well with the five previous husbands...no living water for her!/s


20 posted on 07/28/2016 11:20:34 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (BEWARE THE ABORTION POLITICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!)
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