[metmom]

Is it the biggest theological fraud inflicted upon modern Christianity?

No.

I'd put it well behind *baptism saves you*, and *works save you*.

[StormPrepper]

I'd put it well behind *baptism saves you*, and *works save you*.

And I've never seen this taught by anyone ever. It's twisting of other people's words. It's part of the rationalization process I spoke of earlier.

The true doctrine is, the Lord has requirements that have to be met before He will grant salvation. Those are His words. What you're doing is the tired old practice of pointing at the requirements and saying "those don't save". Well, no one is saying they do. It's a straw man...