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The Rapture – Indisputable Christian Heresy
Preachers Institute ^ | 04-10-2010 | Fr. Anthony M. Coniaris

Posted on 07/27/2016 8:46:41 PM PDT by NRx

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To: LukeL
My point is that you do not enable, approve, or support any sinful behavior. Would it be Christian to double date with a friend and his mistress? Would it be Christian to donate to a Hindu charity? To support someones gambling or drinking habits? Why make someone happy now when they will be cursed for eternity?

Would it be Christian to correct someone with contempt? That's what I'm taking about. And if a Christian can't withhold the contempt, should they change themselves, or just call it tough love and rip someone to shreds while hiding behind the truth? Guess which is most common?

61 posted on 07/27/2016 10:00:02 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: wolfman; elcid1970
Catholicism: Indisputable Religious Cult

Yes.

62 posted on 07/27/2016 10:02:23 PM PDT by disndat
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To: Ransomed

[Ok, lets say they didn’t accept the gift. So why not try to ease their suffering as best you can, considering?]

JESUS CHRIST gave His all when He suffered and died on the Cross of Calvary. He died so no one has to suffer and spend an eternity in Hell.

Hell is real. Worry about that!


63 posted on 07/27/2016 10:03:29 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Talisker

Dude, I don’t know what “Christians” you hang around, but you seriously need to change churches.


64 posted on 07/27/2016 10:04:13 PM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: cport

“Creating “Rapture Survival Kits” for the unsaved is not what we are called to do.”

This is hard for me to understand. Why can’t you just do both and cover your bases? I mean if there were foundations and charities don’t you think folks would at the very least give it a second look?

Freegards


65 posted on 07/27/2016 10:05:12 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Talisker

I think most liberals hate Christians because it’s hard to see someone taking the hard way, and they know they took the easy way.

At least in this life.

Freegards


66 posted on 07/27/2016 10:05:20 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: buffyt
What a negative comment! We, as Christians, are required to spread the Gospel and bring as many to Christ as we possibly can, so they will be in Heaven with us. If your comment were true, there would be no churches...

Anyone can attend a church and fulfill social obligations. The true church is in the heart - and many heartless people attend churches. Aii I'm talking about is HOW teachings are done. Everyone sins, but many people sin by crippling the hearts of sinners by bashing them with the truth. Instead of leading people to Christ, they lead them to self-loathing and self-hatred. If Jesus had taken such a harsh approach, He'd have had no disciples.

67 posted on 07/27/2016 10:05:46 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

I already explained why I am asking questions in this thread. I am not worried about anything.

Freegards


68 posted on 07/27/2016 10:07:15 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

Read Revelation. It only takes a couple of hours. The NIV Live tapes are excellent. Suffering as we know it does not even begin to describe what is going to happen in the last days to those who don’t believe . .so the best thing is to spread the Word to those you know now before it is too late. God is in control. 2 Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.”


69 posted on 07/27/2016 10:07:35 PM PDT by Maudeen (Sinner Saved by Grace)
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To: Ransomed
I think most liberals hate Christians because it’s hard to see someone taking the hard way, and they know they took the easy way. At least in this life.

Why would they take the easy way, if Christ could fulfill them? Answer: because they never met Christ.

70 posted on 07/27/2016 10:09:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
I do have a question for you...Do you consider the mere telling a homosexual that wants to be saved that he/she must confess ALL sin, including the sin of homosexuality, contemptuous? Not trying to be flippant, just want to know what you consider correction via contempt.

And here's an answer to your question, "Why do liberals hate Christians?" One word, accountability.

71 posted on 07/27/2016 10:11:37 PM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: steve86

It is ignorant to not accept what He has provided in Scripture.


72 posted on 07/27/2016 10:14:45 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Talisker

Do Christians have any humane obligation to those who never met Christ, if they believe in the Rapture and believe they are saved and will be raptured?

Freegards


73 posted on 07/27/2016 10:17:13 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed
This is hard for me to understand. Why can’t you just do both and cover your bases? I mean if there were foundations and charities don’t you think folks would at the very least give it a second look?

I see your heart, Ransomed, and the basis of it in Christ's 2nd commandment. Peace to you. I'll bet you are really involved in local missions.

74 posted on 07/27/2016 10:17:19 PM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: cport
Dude, I don’t know what “Christians” you hang around, but you seriously need to change churches.

Thea an absolute epidemic of liberals in this country. They've all replaced God with the government. And they all hate Christians. If Christians were properly teaching, I don't think there'd be this big of a problem. Yeah, some would knowingly choose evil, but my God, we've got over 40 MILLION liberals determined to vote for Hillary no matter what. When the failure rate is that high, maybe, just maybe, the teaching isn't being done right.

It has nothing to do with changing the teaching, but how its being taught. And Jesus Himself warned to put love above all - and liberals uniformly live in loveless agony. So somehow they're not getting the message and feeling the Divine love that's available for them. THAT'S the REAL problem in America. The Democratic Party is just the organization of all those lost souls into voting blocks.

75 posted on 07/27/2016 10:17:48 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: cport
I do have a question for you...Do you consider the mere telling a homosexual that wants to be saved that he/she must confess ALL sin, including the sin of homosexuality, contemptuous? Not trying to be flippant, just want to know what you consider correction via contempt. And here's an answer to your question, "Why do liberals hate Christians?" One word, accountability.

It has to be done with love, not contempt. To me, that's the essence of the teaching, because then Christ acts through the love, rather than the ego of whoever is trying to teach. That's all, except generally the tougher the teaching, the gentler it needs to be in order to be heard.

People vastly overestimate the inner strength of sinners. Sinners are SCARED. And like a wild animal can be spooked very easily. So what matters is if you actually care what happens to them, or not.

76 posted on 07/27/2016 10:23:23 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Ransomed
Do Christians have any humane obligation to those who never met Christ, if they believe in the Rapture and believe they are saved and will be raptured?

Why would there be an obligation towards someone who already met Christ? They're safe. The only possible "obligation" would be towards those who HAVEN'T met Christ.

77 posted on 07/27/2016 10:26:11 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: NRx

For a denominaton that teaches purgatory, also not a word or translation found in the bible and talked about nowhere in official canon books, kinda log in the eye removal time.


78 posted on 07/27/2016 10:28:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Talisker

In my hypothetical question, the Christians are the ones who believe in the Rapture. As in is it reasonable to expect some sort of posthumous planning for the ones left behind?

Freegards


79 posted on 07/27/2016 10:31:52 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: NRx

Interesting article and good comments. The Rapture is a term of popular culture that is fun to discuss while talking in the mountains in front of the camp fire and sipping whiskey. The Lord is King and He alone knows.
It is funny how Jehovah Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists and a bunch of other gnostics have publicly stated the dates of the Rapture. Sadly, all have been incorrect. I had a friend in Berkeley who went to Independence, Missouri to prepare for the rapture that would take place and he was hurrying to go before it happened sometime in 1997. Yikes! Don’t miss out!


80 posted on 07/27/2016 10:31:55 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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