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Difference in your argument is that there are not myriads of writings that note to Christ through ______ as there are To Christ through Mary as there are in roman catholicism.

None of it presupposes Mary as in independent actor, a Lone Ranger(ess).

Disagree.

There are catholic writings that tell us if we can't get what we want from Christ we can go to mary to get it. I don't have those right now but can provide for you.

We also have the apparitions telling the locals to build a temple in "her" honor. The Mary of the Bible would never say that nor would Paul or Peter or John, etc.

I see you have no rebuttal regarding the Glories of Mary.

btw...how's the corn doing? I bet the heat is not a help for it.

The "Glories of Mary" by St. Alphonsus Liguori is a truly wonderful book that needs no line-by-line exegesis from me. Though I can see how, if a person never really warmed up to Mary, it makes no sense, since it speaks to the heart. That was my problem for a long time.

But let me relate how, again, you're baying down the wrong track when you complain that you see lots of "To Christ Through Mary" in Catholicism, but you don't see myriads of writings about "To Christ Through the Jewish People" or "...Through the Church" or "...Through the Bible."

First of all, there ARE myriads of books of this sort. The fact that you haven't seen them shows how incomplete your knowledge really is. (Mine, too. For one thing, my mental capacity is not as --- capacious --- as I would wish; plus Catholicism is so vast, it's like a Universe in itself.) But trust me, there are tons of writings, sermons, and teachings on the Jewish People, the Church, and the Bible was avenues to Jesus.

And get this: Mary in a sense personally spans it all.

I mean that she is a kind of personification of the Jewish People chosen, bringing birth to everything that was foretold to the virtuous foremothers like Sarah, Hannah, Ruth, the patriarchs and kings and all the prophets

Mary was the Church's first embodiment, because she was the first to know Christ, the first to believe, the only one to accompany Him all the way from His conception in her womb to His repose in the tomb, crowned by Easter and Pentecost. Christ lived in her intimately, as He now lives in the whole Church; and she, first disciple, lived in Christ.

And Mary comprises in a mystical way, the whole Bible, inasmuch as the Bible is all about Christ --- in anticipation, in event and in consequence --- and she, Mary, was there for it all: anticipation, event, and consequence.

So to see Mary as "apart from" or "in competition with" the Jewish People, the Church, or the Bible, is to be blind to the kaleidoscopic and deeply reiterative nature of this whole story of Salvation, in which Our Lord relates ALL these things to Himself, and infuses them with Himself.

He is the potter, We are the clay.

And what He does with clay!!

As for the corn --- I put down a careful "shingling" of newspaper mulch all around every single plant, and I water every day (in a very targeted and conserving way, since I use only rainwater).

So right now it's looking good, despite the hell-spell. But my old-lady muscles are really beginning to ache from all the extras Ive had to do to ensure its survival.

We could sure take a break from these 96 degree daytime highs. Even 80 would feel good.