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To: Mrs. Don-o
you block out the significance of Revelation 12 identifying Mary as the Mother of all believers;

Because Revelation 12 is not about Mary. It is about Israel and Christ. Mary is not the mother of all believers. Again, catholicism assigns something to Mary not accorded by Scripture.

you don't grasp the variations of devotional genres through the centuries;

I grasp when the rcc approves of various writings as being free from error that have been written through the centuries. If they are free from error it strongly suggests it is catholic doctrine.

you ignore archaeological evidence (inscibed over the bones of martyrs in the catacomb walls, lovingly embellishing ancient sites like the House Church at Dura Europos) showing devotion to Mary from the earliest centuries of Chrstianity;

I googled the House Church and find nothing to support the catholic claim this shows Mary. The scholars are in doubt as to exactly who this depicts. http://www.catholictranscript.org/news/news/local-news/4470-yale-gallery-may-hold-oldest-image-of-mary.html

If, as the article suggests, this is Mary at a well when the angel appears it is appealing to the Protoevangelium of James.

However, this would contradict Luke's narrative of 1:28 (NASB), "and coming in, he said to her, Hail, favored one! The Lord is with you." which suggests the meeting happened inside. Not at a well. And you complain I don't "have a sense of context"!

you're completely in the dark about the difference between a dogma, a speculation and a theologoumenon (a mere theological opinion);

I know this. The rcc has not refuted this writing nor cited it as error. IIRC, various popes have embraced it.

In the Glories of Mary by Alphonsus de Liguor, a catholic bishop, (page 129) we have this:

Hence St. Ephrem says: Thou art the only advocate of sinners, and of those who are deprived of every help; and he thus salutes her: Hail! refuge and retreat of sinners, to whom alone they can flee with confidence.

As noted earlier this is a contradiction of scripture to which you cannot offer rebuttal as the popes have embraced this doctrine.

Well, mrs d...it's been fun as always.

I'm off the read about the follies of the dnc. Good luck with the corn. btw....love cream corn and fresh field peas!

91 posted on 07/24/2016 5:51:44 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Just a quick kite his time, because I'm still working on the corn and beans.


This WAS going to be a short kite!



Back to the beans. Adieu.

92 posted on 07/25/2016 4:55:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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