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Vatican Transcript Alters Pope’s Bombshell Remark on Validity of Catholic Marriages
LifeSite News ^ | 6/17/16 | John Jalsevac

Posted on 06/18/2016 11:07:55 AM PDT by marshmallow

June 17, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – The official Vatican transcript of controversial remarks made by Pope Francis this week, in which he speculated that the “great majority” of Catholic marriages are in fact invalid, significantly alters his words.

While a video of the pope’s remarks show clearly that he used the Italian words “grande maggioranza” (great majority) to indicate the proportion of marriages that he believes are “null,” the official Vatican transcript changes those words to the more measured “parte” – i.e. a part, portion, or some.

Yahoo News reports that a Vatican spokesperson stated that the Pope’s words may at times be altered in official transcripts, “after consulting with him or among aides,” in the words of Yahoo News.

The pope made the impromptu remarks on Thursday after addressing the Diocese of Rome’s pastoral congress. He was responding to a question from a layman about the “crisis of marriage.”

In his response Pope Francis speculated that many Catholic couples getting married today don’t understand what marriage is, and enter marriage with a “provisional” mindset. Because of this, he said, “the great majority of our sacramental marriages are null.”

“Because they say, ‘Yes, for the rest of my life!’ but they don’t know what they are saying. Because they have a different culture. They say it, they have good will, but they don’t know.”

The statement has provoked a strong response from many Catholic commentators. On his blog, well-known canonist Ed Peters expressed disbelief. “I am at a loss to understand how anyone … could seriously assert that human nature is suddenly so corrupted and Christ’s sacraments are now so impotent as to have prevented ‘the great majority’ of Christians from even marrying! How can anyone responsibly even posit such a dark and dismal claim, let alone demonstrate it?”

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: marriage; popefrancis
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The clean up crew in action after Francis has "made a mess'.
1 posted on 06/18/2016 11:07:55 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: piusv

Hat tip for the link.


2 posted on 06/18/2016 11:08:21 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Geez, like politics: "Walking it back"...
3 posted on 06/18/2016 11:10:47 AM PDT by SunLakesJeff (Thank you, St. Thomas More.)
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To: marshmallow

You are certainly very welcome.


4 posted on 06/18/2016 11:11:09 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: marshmallow

The Papapologists have given up on “taken out of context” and “mistranslated.” Now they just change the record without telling anyone. Francis is the Vatican’s Obama.


5 posted on 06/18/2016 11:14:42 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: sparklite2

Apparently they take us all for idiots.


6 posted on 06/18/2016 11:16:46 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: marshmallow

Pope Fraud has no credibility.


7 posted on 06/18/2016 11:17:33 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: marshmallow

The Pope is an idiot or a lunatic, probably both.


8 posted on 06/18/2016 11:20:47 AM PDT by ZULU (Donald Trump is the biggest threat to the New World Order since Barry Goldwater)
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To: ZULU

Actually I think it’s neither.


9 posted on 06/18/2016 11:23:34 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: sparklite2

10 posted on 06/18/2016 11:31:09 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Good old Nikolai Yezhov. He was
swallowed up by the very purges
he orchestrated.


11 posted on 06/18/2016 11:44:46 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: ZULU

I think there is method to his madness; I suspect this is used as justification for granting annulments when all else fails...


12 posted on 06/18/2016 11:53:41 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: marshmallow
Using the same line reasoning, Jorge's ordination is invalid.

"They say 'yes, yes' but they don't know."

13 posted on 06/18/2016 12:38:24 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: kearnyirish2

I thought annulments were for only unconsummated marriages, the Kennedy family excepted, of course.


14 posted on 06/18/2016 12:38:47 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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I thought annulments were for only unconsummated marriages,

You're thinking of civil annulments, not Church.

15 posted on 06/18/2016 12:51:19 PM PDT by maryz
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To: sparklite2

Touchdown, sparklite
16 posted on 06/18/2016 12:56:23 PM PDT by SunLakesJeff
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To: sparklite2

Please read up on annulments.


17 posted on 06/18/2016 1:10:52 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: sparklite2

You can start here.

http://www.catholic.com/video/how-can-i-explain-annulments-to-my-non-catholic-friend


18 posted on 06/18/2016 1:17:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: maryz; sparklite2

Actually, pre-Vatican II valid grounds for annulments were minimal. It is only since Vatican II and the resultant 1983 New Code of Canon Law where there is much more leeway. There were 338 annulments granted in 1968 and 59,030 in 1992.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/k012rpAnnulments_Stretenovic.html


19 posted on 06/18/2016 1:19:20 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: maryz; sparklite2

Actually, pre-Vatican II valid grounds for annulments were minimal. It is only since Vatican II and the resultant 1983 New Code of Canon Law where there is much more leeway. There were 338 annulments granted in 1968 and 59,030 in 1992.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/k012rpAnnulments_Stretenovic.html


20 posted on 06/18/2016 1:19:53 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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