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Pope Francis says most marriages today are ‘invalid’. This is a disaster for the Catholic Church
The Spectator ^ | June 17, 2016 | Damian Thompson

Posted on 06/16/2016 9:22:17 PM PDT by ebb tide

Pope Francis, spiritual leader of a billion people, has just informed them that ‘the great majority’ of sacramental marriages are invalid because couples don’t go into them with the right intentions. He was speaking at a press conference in Rome. Here’s the context, from the Catholic News Agency (my emphases):

‘I heard a bishop say some months ago that he met a boy that had finished his university studies, and said “I want to become a priest, but only for 10 years”. It’s the culture of the provisional. And this happens everywhere, also in priestly life, in religious life,’ he said.

‘It’s provisional, and because of this the great majority of our sacramental marriages are null. Because they say “yes, for the rest of my life!” but they don’t know what they are saying. Because they have a different culture. They say it, they have good will, but they don’t know.’

Uh? You can read the full report here but you won’t be much the wiser. The Pope, thinking aloud in the manner of some maverick parish priest after a couple of glasses of wine at dinner, has just told millions of his flock that they are not really married.

Did he mean to say that? What does he really think? What authority do his words carry?

And why should Catholics even have to ask these questions? Francis’s off-the-cuff ramblings on matters of extreme pastoral sensitivity are wreaking havoc in the Catholic Church, as I’ve written here.

Ross Douthat of the New York Times has just tweeted this response:

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I suspect that even the Pope’s most liberal admirers will have difficulty extricating him from this mess.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
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To: fatima

You mouth is almost as filthy as Bergolio’s. He’s fond of feces also.


361 posted on 06/21/2016 7:22:39 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: MHGinTN

I love those words-glowing Spirit.Just a little poster on the internet like you Mhgintn but Our Father hears our Prayers.We pray together as one Soul.


362 posted on 06/21/2016 7:27:48 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: ebb tide

Mine is bad,have 6 kids and 25 grandkids.Many work in the parish and do TV and radio constipated .How many children do you have?


363 posted on 06/21/2016 7:36:13 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: ebb tide
You and the woman married to Don-o are the two apologists muddling along on this thread.

Perhaps a nice dose of phenalthanline would help you 'out'.

364 posted on 06/21/2016 7:38:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: fatima; MHGinTN
"Journalists sometimes risk becoming ill from coprophilia and thus fomenting coprophagia", Papa Tango.

I see you have joined the pervert of Rome's fecal focus club.

365 posted on 06/21/2016 7:40:29 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: fatima

Your kids do TV and radio constipated???


366 posted on 06/21/2016 7:42:26 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; MHGinTN

Courtesy ping


367 posted on 06/21/2016 7:45:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

My kids ebb tide read along -how many children do you have.


368 posted on 06/21/2016 7:47:53 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: ebb tide

So is your constipated for the filth you put to Rome.You represent a group that has not recognized a Pope since 1960 yet you never own up to it do you.Your a lot constipated.Let it out.You will feel better.Shame to crap all over a nice forum.Run to the bathroom now.


369 posted on 06/21/2016 8:05:19 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima
I did read along. This is what you said:

Many (of my kids and grandkids) work in the parish and do TV and radio constipated.

370 posted on 06/21/2016 8:06:05 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: fatima; MHGinTN
You represent a group that has not recognized a Pope since 1960.

Now, in desperation, you are purposely bearing false witness. You are a disgrace to the Catholic religion. May God have mercy on your soul.

371 posted on 06/21/2016 8:10:34 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: fatima
So is your constipated for the filth you put to Rome.

Give it a rest. I've never seen a 73 year-old Catholic woman with a filthier mouth or mind.

372 posted on 06/21/2016 8:14:10 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

How many kids do you have.Prove me wrong constipated.You alone needing to crap all over forums or do you belong to a group.Hello.Why do you need to call for help?


373 posted on 06/21/2016 8:19:57 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima

My wife and I were both virgins when we married. We have nine kids.


374 posted on 06/21/2016 8:23:09 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Thanks for the honest answer as I gave you.Night constipated.


375 posted on 06/21/2016 8:27:36 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima

Good night, sewermouth.


376 posted on 06/21/2016 8:30:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
You and the woman married to Don-o are the two apologists muddling along on this thread.

Perhaps a nice dose of phenalthanline would help you 'out'.

377 posted on 06/21/2016 8:57:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I do know that there had to be a female gamete from Mary.

Tell me how you "know" that? Please.

378 posted on 06/21/2016 9:13:10 PM PDT by imardmd1 (The LORD says: "I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire" Is. 54:16)
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To: MHGinTN
That post is a repeat of your post #364. Have been you checked out for dementia?
379 posted on 06/21/2016 9:14:37 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: imardmd1
What's that line from Fiddler On The Roof? ... Oh yeah, 'Traditions'
380 posted on 06/21/2016 10:16:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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