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I have never understood why a confessing Christian just can't bring themselves to believe the Bible. If you can't believe Adam lived 900 years, how will you believe Jesus was born of a virgin and rose from the dead? There are certain things a Christian MUST believe to live by faith. Any explanation would be to put God in a box when Scripture tells us noting is impossible for God. Anything we say other than what appears in Scripture is speculation on our part. IMO, Adam was designed to live forever, but messed up. The earth was completely different pre-flood. The water that came from the fountains of the earth came to the surface and the earth shrank by at least 10%. This changed the atmosphere's pressure and changed gravity. I believe the book of Enoch, as many at the time of Jesus did,( Jude mentioned the prophet Enoch) and it explains why the flood had to happen and fit's the theme of the rest of the Bible. The fallen angels made the DNA line impure and had to be destroyed. They taught the daughters of men spells and witchcraft and introduced off earth practices to the women. It was widely known that when Methuselah died, the judgement would come.( that's what his name means in Hebrew).

I can't tell you how many discussions I've had with "Christians" about Genesis 1. They argue we can't know how long a day was when God tells us "The evening and the morning were the first day. Then in Exodus 20:11, we are told, by God, that He created the earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th. Are we going to argue with God? If you claim Moses, or mere men wrote the Bible, then how are we to truth any of it? The Bible was dictated to Moses at the Tabernacle, as a man speaks to a friend. Moses doesn't even show up till Exodus 3. How are we to believe Abraham, Sodom and Gomorrah, Joseph, Jacob and others, if we can't believe Adam and Noah?

At some point you either have faith or you are beyond grace and can't be saved. I used to have these thoughts before I was born again. After that, I have complete faith in Scripture and it has all become clear to me. The Holy Spirit authored the Bible that prophets wrote down. The same language and themes run throughout every page. God made sure His children would have His story and character for them to read for posterity.

I've even met people that won't read anything unless it is in red. Why would they believe Jesus said these things if Mathew or John wrote them down? IMO, if Genesis wasn't true, don't you think Jesus would have explained that men came from apes, or their wasn't a world wide flood, or Sodom wasn't blown off the map for sodomy? The theme of a 6 day creation is a shadow of the 6000 year history of earth and the 7th day represents the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth. Even Peter explains that a day to the Lord is as a thousand years. That doesn't refer to some misconception of eon's of history passing as the atheists tell us. I prefer faith in God's Word over the rantings of an atheist.

The world is just following the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. The world is dying, not getting better. Chaos is getting greater, not healing itself. Any perusal of Scripture tells us the world is getting ready for Christ's return. Gen 1:14 tells us He put lights in the sky for signs and seasons. These aren't for spring and summer, but to tells us God's clock. Do a word search for signs of the times( Mat 16:3). Jesus is disappointed that they didn't know what time it was even though they knew the Scriptures.

It is set now that either Trump or Hillary will be God's choice for us. If we put our faith in a man, we are missing the point of Scripture. God places His choice for us as our judgement. If we are foolish enough to believe we aren't headed for judgement after 60 million dead babies and now gay marriage, we haven read Leviticus 18:22-30. From what I see here on FR, it seem people believe that Trump will be able to save America from God. It's hardly a plan to have bad and worse as our choices. 2 Chron 7:14 is the key, and I don't see that happening.

Satan seems to have a sense of humor as now he waits to see if if accept men's penises waving at our daughters at school to see if we will remove our children from danger. All of this, and I say again, ALL, comes from years ago taking prayer and God from the culture. I even give the Viet Nam defeat to the rejection of God in our country. Remember sex, drugs, and rock and roll? How far have we come from teaching billions of years of evolution, to not even being able to determine if we are men or women? I have to wonder if, when we meet Jesus he says "I never knew you" if you insist men didn't live for 900 years or we really came from apes over millions of years. He has given us Truth and nothing but the Truth, yet "believers" continue to question length of days, who did Cain marry, was there a flood, were their giants, and so on.

A Scripture comes to mind Isa 4:1, And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, we will eat our own bread and wear our own clothing; only let us be called by your name, to take away our shame. In that day( the end times) 7 women( women are always religions, Rev 2-3, these are "Christians" we are talking about) one man( Jesus) eat our own bread( make up our own beliefs, the Bible is Bread of heaven) wear our own clothing( righteousness only comes from Jesus, dirty garments won't be allowed) let us be called by your name( they want to be called "Christians even though they don't even resemble any description of one) to take away their shame( none of us want to be called Satan followers even if we blatantly do.)

83 posted on 06/10/2016 11:43:27 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

I point to the existence of Israel and mention how many folks, even so called Christian learned men used to scoff that Israel would ever again become a nation, that Israel’s reemergence in prophecy was to be taken as symbolic of the eventual embrace of the church by the entire world or other symbolic prosaic prattle....but 1948 comes and poof literally against all odds with the whole of the Arab world arrayed against her in battle...and Israel is reborn. If Israel is again a nation...then perhaps other parts of the Bible need to be taken seriously. Israel is indeed a “burdensome stone” or a cup of trembling for the wicked of the world because it is a constant reminder that keeps the wicked looking over their shoulders for the judgment that God is sending our way!


89 posted on 06/10/2016 12:02:49 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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