Posted on 06/02/2016 8:12:50 AM PDT by ebb tide
The group has been given official permission to hold a public demonstration in the gardens of Castel SantAngelo.
Campaigners calling for women priests are meeting in Rome this week where they have launched a poster campaign drawing attention to their cause and where they will participate in their first ever official public demonstration.
Womens Ordination Worldwide, which this year marks its 20th anniversary, wants to re-open dialogue in the Church in spite of Pope John Paul IIs ruling that the matter should not be discussed.
Despite the ruling, since 2002, around 150 women have been ordained and all of them have been excommunicated as a result.
Yesterday evening two of them had an unprecedented meeting with an official from the Vatican Secretariat of State who agreed to give a petition to the Pope calling for the excommunications to be lifted, and who, according to the women, listened to our heartfelt plea for women priests in our Church.
Female ordination is prohibited in the Catholic Church on the grounds that Christ chose only male disciples and only a male priest can act in persona Christi (in the person of Christ).
Fr Tony Flannery, the Irish Redemptorist priest who was suspended from public ministry by the Vatican due, in part, to his views in favour of female ordination, said the in persona Christi argument was like suggesting the earth is flat.
Speaking during a panel discussion at the Casa Internazionale delle donne Fr Flannery stressed that women were able to represent the person of Christ.
Also speaking during the discussion today was Dr Marinella Perroni, a theologian at the Pontifical Athenaeum Regina Apostolorum (an educational institute of the Catholic Church) in Rome, who told the gathering that John Paul IIs edict had led to a paralysis and meant some professors had been denounced by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith for raising the topic.
She said that ordaining women could lead to loss of unity in the Church, but that it was equally unacceptable to have a discipleship at two speeds, where men have ministerial authority and women are not properly recognised.
The conference in Rome suggests a renewed confidence in discussing female ordination. Campaigners have been encouraged by Pope Franciss recent remarks that he wanted to set up a commission to explore the question of women deacons.
For the first time the group has been given official permission to hold a public demonstration in the gardens of Castel SantAngelo on Friday, the day that the Pope celebrates a jubilee mass for priests in St Peters Square. Members of the womens ordination group have also been given tickets to attend the Mass.
The pictures on the posters being put around Rome this week include 70 female priests from the United States and Colombia photographed by Italian artist Giulia Bianchi as part of an ongoing project.
The gathering this week was organised by Kate McElwee, who is the first womans ordination campaigner to be permanently based in Rome.
I wouldn’t be surprised. Francis has already indirectly [if not directly, e.g Schonborn] invited unrepentant adulterers to sacrilegiously receive Holy Communion. And earlier, he implied it was up to a Lutheran’s conscience on whether or not to receive Holy Communion at a Catholic Mass.
Between the above and his refusal to genuflect at the Consecration or before a tabernacle, he still seems to have the agility to get down on his knees and wash the feet of non-believers on one of the most solemn days of the Church calendar.
Not only that, he had earlier dropped to his knees to get “blessed” by heretics.
I truly believe the man does not believe in the Transubstantiation, between his beachballs and distribution of Holy Communion in plastic beer cups.
What a crock!
We have a saying, “Priests and Hierarchs come and go. We stay. “
Many cardinals and theologians (I don’t mean Ben and JP) have not believed it for a long time, and not just since Vatican II, but before.
What we will see a few centuries from now is “transubstantiation” has been slowly redefined. Why do we no longer hear the word? Why is kneeling discouraged? Why has the somewhat inaccurate phrase “real presence” replaced “body and blood of Christ”? Why “community” instead of “communion of saints”? Why the insistence on “eucharist” over “blessed sacrament”? I’m sure you’ve seen more than I have, too.
Those are not haphazard modernisms due to merely linguistic or social trends. They are deliberate, gradual steps to a vision long cherished in certain high circles. These changes were not caused by Vatican II and they will not be reversed any time soon. The true Church will exist within the larger one (I won’t say the “false” one...???)
True. Changes were happening before then (for example, the liturgical reform movement started in the 40's), but Vatican II made the changes official. It's been down hill ever since....
The true Church will exist within the larger one (I wont say the false one...???)
This is an interesting comment because Vatican II teaches that Christ's Church "subsists in" the Catholic Church, rather than "is" the Catholic Church which is what the Church has always taught. The Novus Ordo apologists will explain this away but it is a very clear denial of Catholic Truth.
On the Feast of the Sacred Heart.
Act of Reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus
Right proud of his initiative, that one --- and prefers to remain anonymous?
Who was it?
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