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To: BipolarBob
First of all, please name the author and article you're quoting from, and if possible, give the link where you found it. It's surely somebody commenting on Scripture, papal encyclicals and other documents, but I'd like it read it in the context in which you found it..

Second, is "with the grace of Almighty God" a synonym for "single-handed" in your book?

Third, you might have missed the first axiom of Catholic Marian studies, that every revealed OT prophecy or fact "finds its realization in Jesus." That means that everything said of Mary is predicated on Christ's power, which is manifest in His Incarnation, in which Mary His Mother is the unique co-operator.

Did you get that? It's the most important fact you can know about Marian studies.

You might want to go back and read everything from the beginning again, with that hermeneutical key firmly in mind.

What it means is that whether the ipsa in Genesis 3:15 refers to "the Woman" as its precedent, or to "her seed" (which could be male or female or neuter, singular or collectively plural) it is Christ who is the victor over sin and death, and thus Christ who definitively crushes Satan's head.

In other words, even if "ipsa" is grammatically applied to refer to the Woman, she is cooperating in this act by virtue of her maternity, that is, by providing for the incarnation of God's son, Jesus Christ. It is her Seed, her Son, God's Son, Who by His Passion and Death, and His glorious Resurrection, accomplishes the redemption of the world.

BTW, the Catholic Bible on my desk right now, the New American Bible, translates "ipsa" as "he" (rather than the grammatically-plausible "he", "it" or "they").

The King James Bible (KJV), as you can see here (LINK), translates "ipsa" as "it". This is also true of the Authorized King James Version (AKJV) and the Orthodox Jewish Bible (as you can see AKJV and OJB versions (LINK)

The oldest of the translations, the Wycliffe version (LINK) translates it two ways: as "her" and as "her seed."

Most of the rest say "he" and "his."

All of this goes to show two things. It shows that the word "ipsa" cannot, from the text itself, be translated dispositively as regards its precedent-word. And it shows that whether it refers to he, she, it, they, or her seed, it points to Christ (the Woman's offspring) carrying out this saving act.

This is made possible by His Incarnation, of which Mary was the key cooperator. Hence His victory, as Son of Man, Son of God, is also a victory for the Woman in which she is uniquely associated by His grace as Mother of the Incarnate Word.

294 posted on 06/01/2016 9:38:42 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (O Mary, He whom the whole Universe cannot contain, enclosed Himself in your womb and was made man.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

http://www.motherofallpeoples.com/2008/10/the-mystery-of-the-blessed-virgin-mary-in-the-old-testament/


295 posted on 06/01/2016 10:36:19 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
What it means is that whether the ipsa in Genesis 3:15 refers to "the Woman" as its precedent, or to "her seed" (which could be male or female or neuter, singular or collectively plural) it is Christ who is the victor over sin and death, and thus Christ who definitively crushes Satan's head.

If we know it is Christ - not Mary - that crushes the head, then why bring her into it at all? Why bring up gender grammar when we KNOW it was Him and Him alone? Nothing in the Bible suggests that Jesus had a co-operator or co-redemtrix in His defeat of Satan. The Glory belongs to Him and Him alone. Not give the glory to Mary and then she passes it off.

296 posted on 06/01/2016 10:46:24 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's the most important fact you can know about Marian studies.

That the Catholic Middleman is a woman?

307 posted on 06/01/2016 3:59:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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