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To: Campion
The Trinity was the belief of the whole church from the beginning, long before Constantine. No “government edict” was required to make it so, and the idea that heresy was a crime against the state didn't come around until AD 1100 or so.

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You are very horribly mistaken. When Constantine made the theology of the Holy Trinity the law of the land to not sign on to it in writing meant that you would be excommunicated and possibly executed. Nearly 1/3rd of the Church leaders refused to sign on until the council in 385 which started enforcing the executions.

The whole idea of what we now call the Trinity came from The Church in Greece, it was nowhere else at first. The bishop of Alexandria, he was Greek, was a friend of Constantine, that bishop was a Trinitarian and ultimately convinced Constantine to enforce that one belief so that there would be a “universal or catholic” faith.

There were church leaders who went into hiding after the 385 council rather than be executed. It was not a happy time in The Church. Constantine for his part while alive did not think it so important as the Alexandrian Bishop to go after those who would not sign on and so let them continue in their leadership positions without signing on to Trinitariansm.

The Non-Trinitarians did not as a whole think Christ any less divine than God The Father, they only believed they were not the same person, that they could be three places at one time. They believed that Christ was subservient to God the Father and that The Holy Ghost was a person of spirit only that did the bidding of both The Father and The Son.

I have no idea what Mormon made up history has to do with any of this, this was many centuries before the world ever thought about Mormons.

40 posted on 05/24/2016 11:25:41 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig
When Constantine made the theology of the Holy Trinity the law of the land

Constantine did no such thing. Theodosius the Great made Catholicism the state religion of Rome, but that was 50 years after Constantine was dead and gone.

to not sign on to it in writing meant that you would be excommunicated and possibly executed.

The idea of heresy as a capital crime started in medieval Europe. The first millennium heretics, like Arius or Nestorius, weren't executed. At worst they could be banished to a remote part of the empire.

There were church leaders who went into hiding after the 385 council rather than be executed.

Name them.

The Non-Trinitarians did not as a whole think Christ any less divine than God The Father

Wrong. The Arians sang a song that included the line "there was a time when He was not," which clearly indicates that they viewed the Son as only a created being less than God.

they only believed they were not the same person

Trinitarianism says that the Father and the Son are not the same person.

that they could be three places at one time.

??

You have bad theology because you believe in a lot of made-up false "history" that never happened.

51 posted on 05/24/2016 4:01:28 PM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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