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To: daniel1212; verga; ealgeone; MHGinTN; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; ...

The problem is that Catholics constantly focus on the claim of *worshiping* Mary and saying they don’t do it.

What they clearly choose to ignore is that God’s command is to not make images of created things and bow down before them.

Now, while the display of worship to Mary is clearly seen, if the Catholics say they aren’t worshiping her, we can give them the benefit of the doubt and accept that they really think that’s not what they are doing, even though it’s patently obvious to anyone watching what is going on.

However, what is clearly happening is that Catholics do make images of Mary. They do bow down before them and pray to them and light candles to them. IOW, they do the actions that God has commanded men to NOT do to images.

Now verga’s absurd and pathetic attempt to equate what he claims non-Catholics do with the Bible to what Catholics do with Mary indeed falls flat as we do NOT make images of it, we do not bow down to it, we do not pray to it, we do not light candles to it, or consecrate our lives to it.

So the mockery only serves to make verga look more like a fool with every attempt as everyone can see what he’s doing.


427 posted on 05/24/2016 11:41:07 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Now, while the display of worship to Mary is clearly seen, if the Catholics say they aren’t worshiping her, we can give them the benefit of the doubt and accept that they really think that’s not what they are doing, even though it’s patently obvious to anyone watching what is going on.

However, what is clearly happening is that Catholics do make images of Mary. They do bow down before them and pray to them and light candles to them. IOW, they do the actions that God has commanded men to NOT do to images.

And this silly opinion and a $1.25 will buy you a soda.

436 posted on 05/24/2016 2:53:25 PM PDT by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: metmom
However, what is clearly happening is that Catholics do make images of Mary. They do bow down before them and pray to them and light candles to them. IOW, they do the actions that God has commanded men to NOT do to images.

That alone does not suffice to describe what Caths do re Mary as being contrary to the word of God. Men were on rare occasions bowed down to, though that was forbidden by Peter, and nowhere is seen by believers to the same, for "all ye are brethren." And God twice commanded the Israelites to make a graven image, but only at His command (and in the latter case the ended up worshiping it: 2Ki. 18:4), versus them making for themselves graven images of their own accord, as Caths do.

But it is in the overall totality of Catholic hyper veneration of their fictitious Mary that we see what would be seen as idolatry, or at least blasphemy in Scripture, rendering to her such adulation, supplication, and attributes that only are given to God in Scripture.

we do NOT make images of it, we do not bow down to it, we do not pray to it, we do not light candles to it, or consecrate our lives to it.

Caths can only wish that Mary received in Scripture the manner of constant attention, exaltation, devotion, superlatives, recourse, and effects and qualities that are given to the wholly inspired word of God. (Ps. 19; 119; etc.

438 posted on 05/24/2016 3:05:35 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: metmom
Now verga’s absurd and pathetic attempt to equate what he claims non-Catholics do with the Bible to what Catholics do with Mary indeed falls flat as we do NOT make images of it, we do not bow down to it, we do not pray to it, we do not light candles to it, or consecrate our lives to it.

I have witnessed these actions with my own eyes and can assure you that non-Catholics have done this on a regular basis. And seeing as you don't know the protestants I know, and I have not seen the things I have seen. You can not say otherwise. (Sound familiar)

439 posted on 05/24/2016 3:16:16 PM PDT by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: metmom
The problem is that Catholics constantly focus on the claim of *worshiping* Mary and saying they don’t do it.

 


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  


445 posted on 05/24/2016 5:03:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Now verga’s absurd and pathetic attempt to equate what he claims non-Catholics do with the Bible to what Catholics do with Mary indeed falls flat as we do NOT make images of it, we do not bow down to it, we do not pray to it, we do not light candles to it, or consecrate our lives to it.

I suppose you are going to deny the almost weekly animal sacrifices that many protestant churches offer.

458 posted on 05/25/2016 4:58:12 AM PDT by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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