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To: daniel1212

Nope, nice try I know what I have seen with my own eyes both when I was a protestant and now as a Catholic. Please stop denying the plain truth. quite a few of you worship the Bible, you kneel before it, pray to it etc......


332 posted on 05/23/2016 5:30:59 PM PDT by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: verga

Oh noes, it’s just hyperdulia dude! LOL


333 posted on 05/23/2016 5:33:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: verga; daniel1212
Nope, nice try I know what I have seen with my own eyes both when I was a protestant and now as a Catholic. Please stop denying the plain truth. quite a few of you worship the Bible, you kneel before it, pray to it etc......

I've never seen anyone pray to the Bible or kneel before it and pray to it as the catholic does Mary.

Your attempt to conflate the two is a poor attempt at apologetics. Maybe you should go help Tim Staples and his website.

339 posted on 05/23/2016 6:18:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: verga; ealgeone
Nope, nice try I know what I have seen with my own eyes both when I was a protestant and now as a Catholic. Please stop denying the plain truth. quite a few of you worship the Bible, you kneel before it, pray to it etc......

Pure bombast in contrast to what is abundantly substantiated. In Scripture you will find the word of God being consistently exceedingly loved, praised, longed for, adored as being very pure, perfect, converting the soul, enlightening the eyes, more to be desired than pure gold, sweeter than honey, esteemed above necessary food, the saintly meditation of which is all day long, and the delight and rejoicing of the heart, and in keeping of which there is great reward, and which God has exalted above His very name.

Yet we do not bow down to a statue of it, or pray to the Bible ("O most merciful Bible, hear out prayer.."), offer up sacrifices to it, or whatever else in your "etc." that would be unScriptural veneration. In contrast, Caths engage in what is utterly unseen in Scripture, saying such things as, “sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary’s name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus...[who] does not at once, answer anyone who invokes him, but only does so after just judgment. But if the name of his mother Mary is invoked, her merits intercede so that he is answered even if the merits of him who invoked her do not deserve it.” Thus, “we have recourse, to thee alone, and we beseech thee to prevent thy beloved Son, who is irritated by our sins, from abandoning us to the power of the devil,” “we have but one advocate, and that is thyself, and thou alone art truly loving and solicitous for our salvation ... My Queen and my Advocate with thy Son, whom I dare not approach.” (From Judge Fairly, p. 5).. And indeed, Mary “had to suffer, as He did, all the consequences of sin,” thus “We were condemned through the fault of one woman; we are saved through the merits of another woman.”

For adding to what the word of God says of the virtuous, surrendered, Spirit-filled graced among women, Mary of Scripture and contrary to it, RCs assert of this demonic (yes) demigoddess that “the power thus put into her (Mary’s) hands is all but unlimited,” “surpassing in power all the angels and saints in Heaven,” and is actually “like unto Him.” for “when she acts, it is also He who acts; and that if her intervention be not accepted, neither is His,” and that “ “all in heaven and on earth, even God himself, is subject to the Blessed Virgin,” and that “the greatness of the power which she wields over one who is God cannot be conceived,” for “she seems to have the same power as God. Her prayers and requests are so powerful with him that he accepts them as commands in the sense that he never resists his dear mother’s prayer because it is always humble and conformed to his will...”

Moreover, “Mary has authority over the angels and the blessed in heaven...God gave her the power and the mission of assigning to saints the thrones made vacant by the apostate angels who fell away through pride....all the angels in heaven unceasingly call out to her.” o that “After God, it is impossible to think of anything greater than His Mother,” to her, Jesus owes His Precious Blood...Next to God, she deserves the highest praise....no creature, can ever be compared to her:”

“The Holy Spirit acts only by the Most Blessed Virgin, his Spouse.” “through Whom the Holy Trinity is sanctified.” And “through her alone does He dispense His favours and His gifts,” and “it follows that there is no grace which Mary cannot dispose of as her own, which is not given to her for this purpose.”

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You simply have no case unless you can show that your opposition is actually praying to the Bible, and or attributing to it attributes and praise that is not in Scripture, in which case i will concur it is wrong, just as the manner of "veneration" giving to the Mary of Catholicism is.

357 posted on 05/23/2016 7:10:14 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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