The Annunciation of our Most Holy Lady, the Theotokos and Ever-Virgin Mary (fish wine oil allowed)

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[NRx]

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Well, that’s your story and you’re sticking with it?

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Well, why not? God said so in The Logos.
(except the “ever-virgin” part which ain’t that hard to look past).

[Resettozero]

(except the “ever-virgin” part which ain’t that hard to look past).

Except for the other children she bore later.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Biblical citation for the “other children she bore”, please?

I’m open to instruction. And, as I said, I’ll not commit to to concept of semper-virgin. We hear nothing of Joseph throughout the Gospels; not even of his possible passing during the life and ministry of Christ.

Given the chance, I might ask my Lord, “What of Joseph?” but, really, I’m thinking I’ll be lauding Him endlessly and might not get a private audience for my puny-human inquiries.

[Zionist Conspirator]

You use the Gregorian calendar?

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Jesus’ brothers and sisters. The Gospel of Mark 6:3 and the Gospel of Matthew 13:55-56 state that James, Joses (or Joseph), Judas, and Simon were the brothers of Jesus, the son of Mary. The same verses also mention unnamed sisters of Jesus.

Matthew 13:55-56New International Version (NIV)
55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56 Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?”

Mark 6:3New International Version (NIV)
3 Isn’t this the carpenter? Isn’t this Mary’s son and the brother of James, Joseph,[a] Judas and Simon? Aren’t his sisters here with us?” And they took offense at him.

[DungeonMaster]

De Montfort

19. If we examine closely the remainder of the life of Jesus Christ, we see that he chose to begin his miracles through Mary. It was by her word that he sanctified Saint John the Baptist in the womb of his mother, Saint Elizabeth; no sooner had Mary spoken than John was sanctified. This was his first and greatest miracle of grace. At the wedding in Cana he changed water into wine at her humble prayer, and this was his first miracle in the order of nature. He began and continued his miracles through Mary and he will continue them through her until the end of time.

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He began and continued his miracles through Mary and he will continue them through her until the end of time.

Biblical citation?

[NRx]

I’m not wild about it, but the parish I attend us on the new calendar.

[Joe 6-pack]

Thank you for the post. Two of my favorite interpretations in art are Simone Martini's Sienna altar piece:

and about 500 years later, Dante Rossetti's Annunciation:

[DungeonMaster]

Biblical citation?

When De Montfort is preaching about Mary he doesn't need any biblical references. It's just so. So sayeth the RCC.

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When De Montfort is preaching about Mary he doesn't need any biblical references. It's just so. So sayeth the RCC.

Your mystery-shrouded response leaves the reader unsure whether you believe this statement or are joshing around.

I choose to believe you posted it keyboard-in-cheek.

[DungeonMaster]

Your mystery-shrouded response leaves the reader unsure whether you believe this statement or are joshing around.

I choose to believe you posted it keyboard-in-cheek.

The things that De Montfort says are so blasphemous they leave me speechless. I post them to share my pain and remind Christians what they are dealing with in Marianism.

[DungeonMaster]

De Montfort:

20. God the Holy Spirit, who does not produce any divine person, became fruitful through Mary whom he espoused. It was with her, in her and of her that he produced his masterpiece, God-made-man, and that he produces every day until the end of the world the members of the body of this adorable Head. For this reason the more he finds Mary his dear and inseparable spouse in a soul the more powerful and effective he becomes in producing Jesus Christ in that soul and that soul in Jesus Christ.

[Resettozero]

He mustuv been thinking instead of the Mary from Magdala, as revealed by the author Dan Brown in his books.

[Kolokotronis]

Thanks. We had a nice Liturgy this morning.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Thanks.

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

"Brother" in the Bible is used in a much broader context than what is the norm in modern English. There are instances of people who were most assuredly not "brothers" being referred to as such (Abraham and Lot, Gen 13:8, to cite one example). There are also multiple Mary's in the NT.

Rather than ignore the context surrounding the wording of the Bible as it is translated to modern English, isn't it better to hold to that which is not only supported by Scripture, but has been held by Christians since the earliest record?

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"Brother" in the Bible is used in a much broader context than what is the norm in modern English. There are instances of people who were most assuredly not "brothers" being referred to as such (Abraham and Lot, Gen 13:8, to cite one example). There are also multiple Mary's in the NT. Rather than ignore the context surrounding the wording of the Bible as it is translated to modern English, isn't it better to hold to that which is not only supported by Scripture, but has been held by Christians since the earliest record?

Whatever you want to say and believe, oh wyrd one.