Hovering over Rome: The Ghost of Martin Luther

The Catholic World Report ^ | March 16, 2016 | Allessandra Nucci

[af_vet_1981]

I don't know a single soul "whose faith depends on Luther."

Do you allow that Luther may be judged and go into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels ?

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

A badge I will wear proudly:

Smalkald/Epitome/Thesis 10

[af_vet_1981]

Luther agitated against the demonic cult known as Judaism.

Here comes the antisemitism ...
Are you a Lutheran ?

[ebb tide]

A badge that will melt in fire.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

"Sorry, but I'll stick with the one religion founded by a flawless Person, The Son of God.

Everyone I know with eternal life has entrusted themselves to Christ alone - not any church, of any kind. Nor will you find anything in Scripture that says salvation is anywhere but in the Son.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Do you allow that Luther may be judged and go into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels ?

Having never met Luther personally, all I know is what I’ve read about his expressions of faith in Christ alone. If those are true, he is now in the presence of God for eternity.

We can’t change the destiny of Luther today. We can either accept salvation from the Son or reject Him.

Have you entrusted yourself to Christ alone - apart from ritual, works and your own righteousness? If so, you are headed to meet Luther in glory. If not, why?

[ebb tide]

Everyone I know with eternal life has entrusted themselves to Christ alone - not any church, of any kind.

Good luck with that thinking, but I doubt it will work out well for you and the others.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Everyone I know with eternal life has entrusted themselves to Christ alone - not any church, of any kind.

Good luck with that thinking, but I doubt it will work out well for you and the others.

Hmmmmmmmmm......... Let's see.

Take Christ at his Word or eternal life, or make something up out of whole cloth that is never said in Scripture... hmmmmm?

I pick Christ!

[af_vet_1981]

Your theology depends on Luther being in heaven.
This you do depend on him unlike what you wrote.

[ebb tide]

If those are true, he is now in the presence of God for eternity.

And if it's not true, Luther must be in Hell, right?

[Phinneous]

Oooh ooh. Can I answer? Is this one of those threads??

Nah, it’s a Christian thread, AF Vet. Let Christians do their thing.

(though G-d is one and His Name is one.... not 3....)

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Do you not know the very words of Christ that say:

1: No one comes to the Father except by Me
2: that whosoever believes in HIM will receive eternal life. He that does not believe will be damned eternally.
3: I am the way and the life. Whosoever believes in me will receive eternal life.

So, by your interpretation, Christ, himself, was an antiSemite right?

Here I stand.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

"Your theology depends on Luther being in heaven." My salvation depends in entrusting myself to Christ alone for eternal life. I've done so.

Luther had his time on earth to do the same. When we get to heaven - those of us who are actual believers in Christ - we'll see.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to tell you unless you entrust yourself to Christ alone before your death. Guess if you don't, you could ask around down there...

but it will be on you, bro. Why don't you be sure today. Tomorrow is uncertain. Yesterday is gone. Scripture says that Today is the day of salvation. May it be yours.

[ebb tide]

The problem is: you’re not taking Christ’s words, you’re taking a fat, slothful, adulterous heretic’s word.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

I’ll see you there, brother!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

And if it's not true, Luther must be in Hell, right?

Anyone who does not entrust themselves for eternal life to Christ alone now, will not be in heaven. This includes you FRiend. Have you?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

The problem is: you’re not taking Christ’s words, you’re taking a fat, slothful, adulterous heretic’s word.

Surely, you must understand that I've never met Luther, nor read his writings. I have the inspired Word of God.

I'm guessing Luther may live in your mind, rent-free

[aMorePerfectUnion]

((ping))

Watch how many would rather condemn a deceased man than to come to Christ for eternal life.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

[ebb tide]

Luther had his time on earth to do the same.

And it's a shame that he lived it so unwisely.