Posted on 01/27/2016 11:27:33 AM PST by paladinan
Interesting.
The first thing I look at is how many children they have, and then at the amount of grandchildren.
Also, I don’t find myself as someone who can judge another’s faith because I believe that’s between an individual and God.
If I viewed people as you do, anyone eating bacon or lobster would be judged as a pagan. ;)
We already have an Islamic president who follows a false god. Hillary will be just as bad. I do recall Artaxerxes was a heathen emperor but he was used by God to help Nehemaiah rebuild the walls of Jerusalem. Trump could be the same way. I’ll take him or the other Republican candidate over Hilary if I have a choice.
Super good post. I love Matt Walsh’s writings! He’s as conservative as they come [he’s a Catholic Christian!], and yet he’s only in his 20s, is married and has two beautiful children too.
Here’s his facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/mattwalshradio?fref=ts
They are all godless men. One has said he will build a wall. He may or may not but it is worth a shot.
I agree God first, because we serve God not man, and that is the top reason (of many) I am 100% with Donald Trump!
Since when did God’s truth come from a cultist like Beck? Yea you’re some Christian pal.
God is on His throne and is in charge. The Republican nominee is in His hands. But I won’t be voting for a socialist Democrat who boos God.
Dear Christians, don’t vote for Trump says a mormon. And don’t forget to read the other gospel of Joe Smith while you’re at it.
I respect the Holy Scriptures but I have never beaten them in my life. If accepting that God's Word is far superior to any word of man's as a moral guideline makes me sanctimonious, then guilty, guilty, guilty and proud of it.
I have never pushed anyone at FR on religious doctrine other than fellow Catholics in error and schism who still claim to be Catholic. They are living violations of truth in advertising.
Everyone else: Reformed Christian, Eastern Orthodox Christian, Jew, Hindu, Jain, Sikh, Muslim, agnostic and even atheist, I leave to their own devices because ours is still a free country BUT all forms of unjustifiable homicide are wrong like robberies, burglaries, assaults, rapes, etc. These are not really denominational issues, but objective moral law.
There have been many churches which have in recent decades defected on the abortion issue from the previous pro-life consensus but God is still the same God and He likely did not change His mind. Until he does, I am pro-life and vote and act accordingly.
Do you think it unreasonable that people who care more about God and Faith than some other folks should ignore God and Faith when they vote? Or can they set some standards for candidates who seek their votes?
Would you vote for a candidate who offers open borders to any and all Syrians? Who would refuse to close the Southern Border? Who would indicate disinterest in the economic disaster that is our country? Neither would I.
Why can't pro-lifers and other social conservatives require the candidates seeking their votes to convince them as to their bona fides on social issues? I demand that too. How about you?
But God helps those who help themselves and that means voting and owning what you vote for. There is NO voting against.
I have no clue your particular denomination, but just how do you propose to end abortion? It is going to take more than your approved candidate. How will you get Congress to act, or the Supremes to take a case.
And under what legal authority does a president have to end the practice of abortion?
There is a Congress full of Godless people and the Executive Branch and the Judiciary...
No I do not find the practice acceptable... Liberalism has darn near crushed the life out of this nation, and we must act now to stop the total collapse of a civil society. I do not expect the ‘right to life’ to take a back seat to any of this nation's wounds.
By the way God already formed all souls/spirits.... The soul/spirit is sent at conception and is what makes the fertilized egg alive. And some of those souls/spirits were allowed to be what they chose to be, evil. I do not think you have the calling to call Trump Godless... Liars rank right up there as smoke in His nostrils.. We do not get to rationalize sins.
I had a very good and Catholic friend who left the Church by becoming a member of the Masonic Order. He did so because the Shriners' Hospital saved his twelve year old daughter from an other wise deadly cancer and paid for all the very expensive treatments. I am not going to judge him either.
Deal with the merits. Do you think that it is a good idea to vote for a man who worships himself over God? Or that such a man might impose tyranny?
There are plenty of pro-Trump answers to those questions and none of them involve attacking Beck's Mormon religion. You might say that Trump is a Presbyterian Christian and is now a churchgoer, that he says he prays, that he has given to good charities, that Norman Vincent Peale was his pastor when he was a kid, that he has done a wonderful job raising his kids and preparing them for responsible and productive lives. Trunp and Cruz an you and I are not perfect men. We all struggle with our various tendencies to sin.
I will vote for the candidate I regard as most likely to achieve a rebuilding of our nation as to many issues after careul consideration. In the primary, my candidate would have been Scott Walker but now it is Ted Cruz. You choose as you will according to those same standards and I will accept your good faith for our country, defend your right to choose whichever candidate best conforms to that standard in your mind and then God bless you and your candidate whether I vote for that candidate or not. I can say that because there is no danger of Mitt Romney getting in. A campaign allows us to test the credentials of each candidate according to our respective standards and in the best interest of our nation and its people.
You can VOTE however you want.
Propaganda alleging someone doesn’t believe in God after they say they do is a character assassination tactic. That’s one area I refuse to mind read because God knows the truth, not me.
Typically, it’s not a discerning characteristic for Republican primary candidates.
Your post is verrrrry well stated.
However, is it wrong for those of us who do not actually know Mr. Trump to seek his assurances on social issues that have been part of our party platform since about 1976, such as wanting the abolition of abortion? Trump had been quite "pro-choice" as recently as 1999 including "partial birth" abortion. I know he has stated in short form a different position in this campaign but you cannot really say that we ought not ask, can you? Isn't the Presbyterian Church, ummm, "pro-choice?" I do realize that whatever the Presbyterian Church may say, many individual Presbyterians may be every bit as pro-life as I am but some are not.
Not only am I in no position to know what is in the heart of those whom I have not met unless they have clearly stated a current position, but I certainly do ot presume to speak for God. His Word speaks for Him. We differ among ourselves on what He meant in various ways. When we die, we will know who is right among us on what.
In the earliest days of the Church, the Romans claimed: "You will know the Christians. They are the ones who love one another." Not a bad status to aim for even two thousand years later.
May God bless you and yours!
In our day, maybe God wants to raise up a POTUS who will end abortion and stop the long slide to moral degeneracy that we have suffered at least since Ronaldus Maximus had to retire. God has a lot of reasons to let the US be destroyed but maybe He is not finished with us yet. Only He knows.
What you are saying is that pragmatism is not pragmatic and you are right. In a Jesuit philosophy class, the teacher taught us about the pragmatists and their methodology and I needed a barf bag. Ubntil then, I had imagined myself a pragmatist. That Jesuit (so long ago that he was still Catholic) disabused me of the notion that pragmatism was desirable.
I have never accused Trump of being Godless. How ould I know. The man claims to be a church going Presbyterian. I'll take him at his word. He says he prays. Ditto.
I can't do anything about Donald Trump's relations with God. That area is up to Gd and, given free will, up to him. What he plans to do about abortion (like naming a pro-life majority of YOUNG hardliners to SCOTUS and all other federal courts to overturn Roe vs. Wade would be a good start. I want to hear his plans from his lips. Likewise as to SCOTUS approval of sodomy as a basis for the marriage of two men to one another or two women or six people chosen at random add three sheep to add in bestiality (still even now a "love" that dare not speak its name at leaast until Sandra Day O'Kennedy and five other amoral constitutional illiterate justices tell us that it is a "constitutional right").
That very well ought to be a "discerning characteristic for all Republican candidates."
Matt Walsh is a Catholic as am I. Is that a problem for you? Why not address the substance of his argument (which I may not agree with) on the merits. You can do that. I know you can!
So, after the Ted Cruz White Knight circus is over, whether he's President or still serving his first term in the Senate, are the excuses for him being no different than any other scheming politician already written with appropriate reference to Scripture included ?
Did Ted graduate from Princeton and Harvard ? If yes, then Ted may be a lot of things, but unless and until I see more indication of it than the carefully scripited stuff Ted carefully makes sure is on the record, there's no way I believe the propaganda about his great faith.
You see, I remember Jimmy Carter and know people who to this day insist he's a perfect Christian who just had a bad situation to deal with and Satan made him mess up. None of them care that Carter is little more than a socialist worm, and that on the very best day of his life.
>>Trump had been quite “pro-choice” as recently as 1999 including “partial birth” abortion. I know he has stated in short form a different position in this campaign but you cannot really say that we ought not ask, can you?
He explicitly said that he had changed his mind on abortion, so his 1999 position is moot. I really can’t prove that he is telling the truth.
As an aside, there is more than one Presbyterian Church. The PCUSA is pro-abortion. The rest (PCA, OPC, RCA, and others) are not. Trump usually attends a church in Manhattan that is not PCUSA.
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