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Putin Says he Likes Communist Ideas Echoing Bible's but USSR Got Them Wrong
Interfax ^ | 1-26-16

Posted on 01/26/2016 5:16:52 AM PST by marshmallow

Stavropol, January 26, Interfax - Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that he still likes the ideas of Communism and that he has not ditched his party member ID card.

"I quite liked, and still do, the Communist and Socialist ideas. If we look at the Code of the builder of Communism, which was broadly circulated in the Soviet Union, it is very much like the Bible. It is not a joke, there is in fact a similar passage in the Bible," he told the first inter-regional forum organized by his All-Russia People's Front on Monday.

The Code proclaims very good ideas: equality, brotherhood, happiness, the president said.

"But practical realization of these remarkable ideas in country was far from what utopian Socialists had been setting out. Our country did not resemble Sun City," said the Russian head of state.

Everyone accused the tsarist regime of repressions, but it was from mass repressions that the construction of the Soviet state began, he recalled.

"Unlike many functionaries - and I was not one - from the party point of view, I was a rank and file member, I did not throw away my party ID, I did not burn it," said the president, adding that "the Communist Party of the Soviet Union collapsed, but my ID is lying somewhere there."


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1 posted on 01/26/2016 5:16:52 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Well, I’ve seen him praised by strange “conservatives.”


2 posted on 01/26/2016 5:19:45 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: marshmallow

Communism is great; for the ruling elite that is.


3 posted on 01/26/2016 5:25:08 AM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: elhombrelibre

Trump likes him so...


4 posted on 01/26/2016 5:32:12 AM PST by The Cuban
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To: vpintheak

And the only problem with communism is that it hasn’t been done “right” yet.


5 posted on 01/26/2016 5:33:21 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: marshmallow
Communism/Socialism is the bad idea that wont die. It has failed many times, but followers simply insist it just needs tweaking by the next dictator.
6 posted on 01/26/2016 5:34:47 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: marshmallow
"But practical realization of these remarkable ideas in country was far from what utopian Socialists had been setting out."

MSM will never ask Castro what he thinks of that.

7 posted on 01/26/2016 5:45:44 AM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: marshmallow

BIG difference between Christian (agape) love and Marxist comradeship. Christian love follows from the commandment, “love others as you love yourself,” described by Jesus as the second most important commandment, following only the Great Shema (that God is One). Thus, Christian love affirms self love, and builds on that to command love of others. Marxist comradeship is in self-denial, and isn’t really love of other persons (as individuals) but love of the masses. Thus, individuals are expendable.

The Russian Orthodox Church could be more clear about this, but it never really embraced the enlightenment.

As for the Catholic Church, the Catholics under JPII used to be quite clear about this. But, under the current rather silly Pope, hasn’t a clue about anything. With regard to the Mainline Protestant denominations, the only things they are clear about are where they are in error.

Bottom line: Don’t blame Putin. It’s the pervasive corruption of the age we live in.


8 posted on 01/26/2016 5:46:16 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: marshmallow

Communists always forget this one important verse though:

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.


9 posted on 01/26/2016 5:46:32 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: marshmallow

He is right, there are a lot of parallels between Christian living and a communist society. However, I think communism is a great example of what happens when you try to incorporate that kind of society without God.

...it just doesn’t work.


10 posted on 01/26/2016 5:51:31 AM PST by Marko413
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To: jsanders2001

And thus welfare programs are un-Christian.

Really,it is not like there isn’t lots of cleanup and repair work to do the world over.


11 posted on 01/26/2016 5:53:19 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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> And thus welfare programs are un-Christian.

Especially if it makes those who provide servants of those who don't deserve it.

12 posted on 01/26/2016 5:56:31 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: marshmallow

“Communist Ideas Echoing Bible’s but USSR Got Them Wrong”

There’s an old saying about Communism (or Socialism, same thing really) that the system is perfect it’t just never been properly implemented and if only different, better people were in charge....


13 posted on 01/26/2016 6:24:50 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: marshmallow

They say Marx/Lenin got their ideas originally from the Bible, based on how in Acts 3 & 4 everyone had everything in common.

The main issue is this: in Acts, the sharing was totally voluntary and spontaneous, each giving on his/her own from the heart, with many giving all they had. This should continue today - to some extent. No one was forced, persuaded, or induced to give. The giving was an act of love from each individual’s hearts.

Communism ignores the origins and motives of unselfishness and sacrificial love of others (which only come from a transformed heart), and FORCES everyone to give all whether they want to or not. This is tyranny and evil, and is hated by all but those at the top who take more than others because they “deserve” it as the elite. The results are always disastrous. No one likes the fruit of their labor being taken away and given to others by force. NO ONE.

This is the simple reason communism never works, and never can or will work. It is totally against human nature.

I know many Christians today who indeed give sacrificially - out of a heart of love. If more of us did this, there would be less need for gov. poverty solutions. But note: Repubs, having a larger percentage of Christains than Dems, always outgive the Dems by about 10 to 1. The Dems are communists right now - taking from Peter to give to Paul. As Sowell so well puts it, “What part of what I worked hard for rightfully belongs to you?” “Why?”

Also, the spontaneous “having all things in common” in the early part of Acts didn’t last long, and was apparently never seen again. The early church, nor the writings/teachings of the apostle Paul never wrote that it was to be done, nor was it even suggested.

Giving out of love is charity. Having one’s possessions taken is always thievery, robbery, criminal - and wrong.

Based on our currrent system, we already not far from tyrannical communism, and today’s Dems would have been called communists in the early 60’s.


14 posted on 01/26/2016 7:03:38 AM PST by Arlis ( A "Sacred Cow" Tipping Christian)
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To: marshmallow

A critical missing ingredient with leftist formulations is individual free-will. All their systems are top-down, not bottoms-up.

I try to tell my liberal friends that one can not be charitable at the ballot box. One can’t spend other people’s money and take credit for “caring.” When you spend our own time or money (and ONLY your own time or money) to help people, that is caring.

Lots of liberals wont take that vital step. They think that “society” is supposed to help the poor. But “society” is just another word for “other people.” And, of course, the supposed help is coerced.


15 posted on 01/26/2016 7:18:58 AM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congresus in 2006.)
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To: marshmallow

People can justify anything in their own minds.


16 posted on 01/26/2016 7:54:07 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: marshmallow

See my tagline plus atheism.

That’s what Communism is.


17 posted on 01/26/2016 11:26:09 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: ChessExpert

There is no such thing as “free will”.

One is either a slave of sin

or

a slave of God.

No middle ground.


18 posted on 01/26/2016 11:27:12 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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