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To: SENTINEL

I am LDS and love my Lord and Savior, Jesus
Christ and believe him to be my redeemer.

As far as I am concerned, it is our Church’s belief that Almighty God’s direct fatherhood of Jesus Christ our redeemer, is one of the main difference between your belief and mine.

So .... let’s get back to the main division ... was Emperor Constantine doing God’s work when he co-opted the Nicene Council in 325 AD?

It is hypocritical of you to state that Joseph Smith was an false prophet, while you ignore the reality that Emperor Constantine with his power over death and banishment was essential in the establishment of the Nicene Creed.

In case you forgot, the Nicene Creed eventually morphs into some unintelligent dogma such as:

three in one, one in three, sometimes one but never two, always three unless expressly one, sometimes one unless expressly two.

through the Revelations of Joseph Smith a latter-day prophet of our God, I testify to you that:

Almighty God is the spiritual and physical father of our lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And that God the father has prepared a place for all of us, as his spiritual children, to take part of the atonement of Jesus Christ to come to him redeemed of this worlds sin and filthiness.

If this is offensive to you, I am sorry. I have assurances through the confirming knowledge bestowed by the Holy Ghost that it is not offensive to God.

And I seek his will (God the Father), mercy and justice and say these things in the name of His Sone, Jesus Christ, Amen.


8 posted on 01/26/2016 4:36:32 AM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: teppe
Wow, you're really wrong on so many counts, Teppe. It's sad.

As far as I am concerned, it is our Church’s belief that Almighty God’s direct fatherhood of Jesus Christ our redeemer, is one of the main difference between your belief and mine.

Don't think so. How about:

Do you want me to go on?

was Emperor Constantine doing God’s work when he co-opted the Nicene Council in 325 AD?

And how, exactly, did Constantine co-opt the Nicene Council? Be specific instead of hiding behind vague accusations. St Nicholas (who was imprisoned under Diocletian) walloped Arius across the mouth at the council; why don't you blame him?: (He was considered a hero by most of the Council Fathers for doing so.) Arius was no Mormon in any case.

In case you forgot, the Nicene Creed eventually morphs into some unintelligent dogma such as

Only in the minds of Mormon apologists. Three persons, one divine substance or being. Nothing contradictory about that.

9 posted on 01/26/2016 4:56:22 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: teppe

Look at the Hebrew text of the words of Micah 5:2

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

The phrase “from everlasting” also applied to the father

Hebrews chapter 7 compares Melchisidek to Jesus’s atributes:

Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.


10 posted on 01/26/2016 6:26:42 AM PST by wingtip (Proud member of the Trump Rebellion)
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To: teppe
This is yet another Christian-bashing thread.

Insulting Christians, and weakening faith is just ever so vogue and brave these days.

I know that you, and your fellow Mormons, are my brothers in Christ. I am grateful for that.

11 posted on 01/26/2016 7:43:17 AM PST by laotzu
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To: teppe
Emporer Constantine?

I follow Christ alone.

FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Joseph Smith IS a false prophet and gave NUMEROUS false prophecies such as an 1890's second coming (like Harold Camping), that men lived on the moon etc.

I am pleasantly surprised that you will openly admit that breakaway Salt Lake Sect members believe FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Brigham Young's teachings that God the father physically fathered Jesus, and that Mary was not a virgin. Most LDS members run and hide from that well documented teaching out of shame.

13 posted on 01/26/2016 10:37:39 PM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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