Posted on 01/25/2016 6:47:09 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
On the surface, it looks like Pope Francis and the Jews are cozying up to one another and becoming besties. Below the surface, an End of Days prophecy that pits Rome against Jerusalem is playing out.
That’s the contention of Rabbi Tovia Singer, a Jewish expert in both Hebrew and Christian Scripture and director of the counter-missionary organization, Outreach Judaism. Singer opens his case by noting the proximity of two recent news items.
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Catholics do evangelize...And I was unaware that only Irish reproduce sexually. How do the rest of you do it? As for Catholicism being an imitation of Judaism, the Catholic Church has existed for longer than the current version of Judaism that sprung up in the wake of Christianity and sundry other events.
Zionist:
You take something to mean something and it means nothing. Yes, the Vatican Does not have a direct Commission or Congregation, like it did back in the day, with specific directives to evangelize similar to sending the Jesuits all over the world in the 16th and 17th centuries. So corporately, the Church does not target any one group. Evangelization does occur, but it is now more targeted at the local Church level. For example, in 2014, 41,920 Adults were Baptized into the Catholic Church from no religion. In addition, about 71,500 were baptized and received into Full communion into the Catholic Church. So that is 122,000 people in the U.S. alone. During that same year, there were about 700,000 infant or child baptisms, which would reflect Catholic parents having their children baptized. So about 1 in 8 of the new Catholics in 2014 would be the result of evangelization at some level, parish or Diocesan level.
These statistics can be easily found at the United States Catholic Conference of Bishops if you want to confirm them for yourself.
Regards.
You all are cracking me up!
By the way, I am familiar with Singer, and not particularly concerned with what he has to say. I hope that one day he sees the light.
Since I am one of the statistics who at one time converted to Catholicism, I am aware that people still convert. However, a seeker has to take the initiative and basically has it all to to himself. No local church is going to go to any trouble to go out and make converts. The most pro-active they get is probably to put an add in the local paper about catechumenate classes. After all, Catholics take pride in not being missionary (another distinction between them and the "stupid fundies," like their dogmatic acceptance of liberal Protestant criticism to prove they aren't Protestants!).
I know when I converted I had to begin the process myself. I found joining the Catholic Church ironically similar to joining a Masonic lodge, since neither one openly recruits members. This also assures that ordinary Fundamentalist Protestants who believe they're right won't get involved and muck up the works. Some Catholics seem to think that G-d raised up these erroneous churches for people too simple-minded and not intellectual enough to make it as Catholics . . . unlike all those illiterate Guatemalan peasants.
And I'm labeling myself an "intellectual" either, because despite my joining I only lasted about six years.
Esau did somewhat redeem himself. He received Jacob in a civil manner.
I've never met any Catholics who thought that, and in any event that's not what the Church teaches.
Furthermore, Guatemala is less than 1/2 Catholic by population. So yeah, bad choice of country for your little dig.
Zionist:
Maybe it is God’s Grace at work that caused the initiative. How do you not know that maybe the simple Catholic witness of Benedictine Monks by their lives of work, prayer and rest in community did not evangelize someone, or the way the late Pope John Paul II life witnessed to the Gospel of Life, and that did not inspire someone to convert.
Modern humanity will not be converted by preaching at them. This is the reality given the principles of individualism which are rooted in the minds of Western Man. Nobody today likes to be told their wrong or preached down to. Quoting the Bible to a secularist in most instances will not work. Rather, how one lives ones life is more likely to make an impact. So in Dioceses of the Catholic Church where there is a strong witness to pro-life causes, unborn, elderly, sick, infants an orphans, Catholic charitable organization like Saint Vincent DePaul that are very active, Catholic Hospitals that still are 100% Catholic that provide health services for the poor and elderly, those actions in and of themselves are methods of evangelization and in my opinion, are more likely to help convert a secularist than someone standing on the street corner yelling with a bible in their hand.
And as for the Masons and Catholic comparison, straw man comparison. Catholics are 1)forbidden to join the Masons (still an excommunicable action) and 2) While the Masons rituals are a secret, the Catholic Church’s Liturgical Rites are very, very, very open. Anyone who goes to a Catholic Church is likely to see a Baptism occur and if they attend on Holy Saturday, they will see Baptism, Confirmation and First Communion take place as well. Not too secret on our end, so again, not sure what your motive is to make such a comparison, so I will stop right there and not try to figure out why you made such a comparison.
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