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To: MHGinTN
"As a ‘faithful’ catholic, you are telling us that the god of your religion makes promises he cannot keep without your works? Figures"

It figures that you'd have such a twisted take on it. It's not a matter of cannot, it's a matter of whether you choose to reject the gift that God has offered. A drowning man can't save himself, but, if thrown a lifesaver, he can choose not to grab it.

9 posted on 01/20/2016 6:32:42 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; MHGinTN

You clearly don’t understand lifesaving then either.

All three of my kids were trained as life guards and there’s not a life guard around who throws a life preserver to a drowning person and figures it’s up to them to decide to grab onto it or not.

Lifeguards are trained to swim out to the victim and place a hold on them that prevents them from being able to fight back. They rescue the victim, not let him decide whether or not to accept the help.

If the person wants to go out and commit suicide later, they can’t help that, but the victim is saved by the life guard whether they want it or not.


12 posted on 01/20/2016 6:45:30 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

You got something right and don’t even have the discernment to know what it is. “A drowning man can’t save himself, but, if thrown a lifesaver, he can choose not to grab it.” That, poor catholic, is the essence of The Gospel of God’s Grace in Christ for you. IF you will do as Jesus said to do, believe in Him Whom God sent, you will have God’s Promise that your spirit is alive forever more. Believing in Jesus IS God’s life preserver. You as a drowning sinner can reach for it or not. Many on these threads have been pointing to the life preserver over and over again. AND you keep questioning the flotation guarantee.


15 posted on 01/20/2016 6:50:58 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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