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Rejoicing in Assurance
Grace to You.org ^ | 1993 | John MacArthur, Grace Community Church

Posted on 01/20/2016 1:53:12 PM PST by metmom

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To: metmom; MHGinTN; Elsie; ealgeone; Syncro
Not one soul on earth is truly innocent.

You are correct MM. Jesus is the only innocent one. I hope God takes the babies with Him, but regardless of whether people agree with His decisions, or not, it will have NO bearing on what He does.
I think those left behind in the rapture, will vastly outnumber the ones taken in the rapture, as only true Christians will be raptured. Those left behind, will be in DEEP trouble.
They can't say they weren't warned. IT'S ON THEM.
Remember the men of Ninevah. Remember the Queen of Sheba. They will rise up in the judgment of this gestation, and condemn it. (Matt 12:41-42)

621 posted on 02/01/2016 8:23:35 PM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: metmom; Elsie; MHGinTN
Your skill is improving with practice.

Salamat. I have to keep improving, or Elsie and MHG will leave me in the dust :-)

622 posted on 02/01/2016 8:39:32 PM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: metmom; MHGinTN; knarf
Was God being merciful when He sent the Flood?

Or don't you believe that is true either?

When I was a Catholic, eons ago, I was in Catholic school religion class. Most of the time, I was too busy looking at the girls, instead of paying attention. One time, however, I remember the priest said he thought the Flood was just a local thing, covering Israel, and maybe part of Jordan, Syria and Saudi Arabia. I actually believed that drivel.
Now that I am an ex Catholic, I know it was a world wide event.
I have heard estimates, that maybe 150 million people may have been killed in the Flood. That's a lot of "innocent" people. Oops, sorry, only Jesus was innocent.
I don't know why God did that, but He has His reasons. I am not sure if it was related to the nephilim. ,

623 posted on 02/01/2016 10:30:48 PM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: terycarl
He consecrated bread and wine and told His apostles to DO THIS.....why is irrelevant


Rome says "Jump!" and told it's members to never ask WHY?

624 posted on 02/02/2016 3:25:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
..THIS is transubstantiation.....what else???

True; it is what Rome has called it.

NOWHERE in those quotes does Jesus say...

"...and when you do THIS in the future; the wine will turn INTO my blood and the bread will turn into my body."


Kool-Aid was invented by Edwin Perkins in Hastings, Nebraska. All of his experiments took place in his mother's kitchen. Its predecessor was a liquid concentrate called Fruit Smack. To reduce shipping costs, in 1927, Perkins discovered a way to remove the liquid from Fruit Smack, leaving only a powder.

625 posted on 02/02/2016 3:30:01 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Yes He did.

 

will Tery EVER look past his 'training'?

 

626 posted on 02/02/2016 3:33:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
WOW, right out of the 1830's and Cotton Mather.

WOW, right out of the bible that Rome assembled, but now claims is not sufficient!


2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us - whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter - asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way...


Matthew 24:40-41
Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left.
Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.

Don't be left behind.

 

 1 Thessalonians 5:21

Douay-Rheims Bible
But prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

627 posted on 02/02/2016 3:45:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17

Said the publican while standing in dust;
“I’ve been told I should do things, ‘I must!’”
Take a drink from a priest;
(A good, Holy feast!);
“In the teachings of Rome, you can trust.”


628 posted on 02/02/2016 3:48:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
I am not sure if it was related to the nephilim.

The book that the Catholics assembled (they got THIS part from the Jews) said they were around in those days.



 

 

 
 

Genesis 6:1-8

When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the Lord said, "My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years."

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. So the Lord said, "I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created - and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground - for I regret that I have made them."

 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.


It does NOT say the GIANTs  mated with the Humans; it merely says they were on the earth.

???

So; just WHO are the sons of God and the daughters of humans???

 

The BOOK says: Let Us create Man in Our image.   So there you get some 'sons of God'; right??

The BOOK also says, in Genesis 5:3-4

 When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.

 

These things happened BEFORE Genesis chapter 6....

 

 


629 posted on 02/02/2016 3:56:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; metmom; MHGinTN; knarf
Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord
He builded him an arc, just before it pored.
The giants were around
But hardly made a sound
Two by two he watched them all come aboard.
630 posted on 02/02/2016 6:19:48 AM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: Elsie; Mark17

You speak vacuously ... Jesus SAID the why ... “In remembrance of me (Jesus)


631 posted on 02/02/2016 6:30:26 AM PST by knarf
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To: Mark17
Then the giants were not human ... not souls ... because only eight souls were saved ... Noah, his three sons and all with wives.

Giants are not souls.

632 posted on 02/02/2016 6:33:49 AM PST by knarf
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To: knarf
It is often asked in Bible study classes 'What is the difference in a living soul and just a soul?'

Jesus axtually addressed that issue when a young man came to Him wanting to know how to gain eternal life. The clue is found in what Jesus told His disciples as the young man walked away without maki9ng the choice to follow Jesus because he said he needed to still bury his father. Jesus delineates two states of 'dead' ...

633 posted on 02/02/2016 6:51:07 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
I don't see that explanation;


The Rich Young Ruler (Matthew 19:16-30; Mark 10:17-31)

18And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. 23And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? 27And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

28Then Peter said, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee. 29And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake, 30Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.



AND (btw), this copy and paste PROVES the Satanic influence on the internet because there are no *&@#% stupid marks for an apostrophe !!!

634 posted on 02/02/2016 6:59:14 AM PST by knarf
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To: knarf

If it is the same event depicted, I was thinking of the scene as given in Luke 9:58 - 60


635 posted on 02/02/2016 7:11:03 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN; Mark17
I think your original comment concerning giants is incorrect using this verse for compare/contrast

Noah had physical entities, Jesus describes spiritual states of physical entities

humbly ... Frank (knarf)

636 posted on 02/02/2016 7:20:08 AM PST by knarf
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To: knarf; Mark17
I did not address 'giants' directly. I focused upon the notion of souls. There is a conflation which equates as the same the human soul and the human spirit. Paul is clear that we have body, soul, and spirit.

In the passage from Luke, Jesus shows us that there are alive bodies (the behavior mechanism and body are still living connected, and there are also dead bodies with dead souls, inferring that without The Holy Spirit in the human soul, the soul is dead.

I was obliquely referring tot he possibility that the 'ginats' may have had living bodies and soul attached, but without Holy Spirit Life in the soul these giant souls would be 'dead ghiants walking'. Yje offspring of the Angels may well have souls but no spirit component, thus they would not have what even an unregenerate human has, a soul with a spirit component that is without God-life in the spirit. Such an human would be dead, spiritually, even if alive in body. Whereas these 'giants' might not even have a spirit component in their souls.

637 posted on 02/02/2016 7:29:59 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN; Mark17
I should have directed my first comment to Mark because it was he that wrote

Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord
He builded him an arc, just before it pored.
The giants were around
But hardly made a sound
Two by two he watched them all come aboard.

Because it seemed like Noah brought two giants in as well


Now that I've REALLY read that comment ... I see it is a song lyric

What DID you mean, Mark ?

638 posted on 02/02/2016 7:42:48 AM PST by knarf
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To: Elsie
If I were catholic I'd be saying this every moment of the day, wearing my scapular and hoping Mary was all catholicism claims. And at the same time there's no thought of Christ as it's all about Mary. Yet catholics say they are free to take it or leave it.

None of the promises made by these apparitions are supported by the Word. It is why Christians reject these false teaching on mary.

639 posted on 02/02/2016 7:50:13 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: terycarl
So this God all merciful would snatch the pilot from the plane bearing 325 soldiers, just released by their captors, heading home to their wives and children, and allow them to plunge to their deaths by crashing into a children's hospital and burning to death 250 innocent children.

Or He could let some Mohammedans take over commercial flights and ram them into public buildings, or government structures, or just into the ground, and cause thousands of deaths. Or He could allow some very ingenious scientists, mathematicians, and engineers to create a nuclear device to bomb cities, causing hundreds of thousands of deaths, so as to forestall the greater tragic deaths of millions of invaders as well as defending residents of a homeland, thus finally ending a war that had already killed millions of humans in the world He had created and populated.

TC, this line of theology of yours doesn't make sense any more than other approaches your reasoning has brought you to, and miserably failed at.

The God of Heaven is not ultimately concerned about our physical death, for all humans will die physically. What He is concerned about is that humans already under condemnation will deny His plan for eternal life for their spirits and souls, and follow Satan--the Devil, the god of this world--and his lies into Hell an the Lake of Fire forever.

Let's cut through your excuses and get real, pal, OK? We're not concerned about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. We who have become bond-slaves of God's Holy Anointed Begotten Son have been given the duty of announcing His Plan of Salvation from Sin as a master and sinfulness as the only outcome of their lives, by reconciliation with God the Father through faith alone in the exculpatory Blood of Christ alone, according to His Written Testimony alone.

Don't you wonder why these kind people have not yet gotten tired of your foolish agitation, and just gotten weary of combating your insane religion and given up on debating? It is because of patience and gracious forbearance like that of their Father, and His long-suffering patience with you inanity.

But beware. There will be an end to it if you persist unto the death of your body, which could come any time, and you slip from the skillet into the flames. After that, there is no return.

Now, your nonsensical reasonings have for several days stirred up this thread which was otiginally meant for the discussion of evangelical Christians concerning the sealing and security of the Holy Ghost, and turned their attention away from God to be consumed upon your worn-out religion and your interjection of its false claims. Isn't that a kind of selfish and childish behavior? Come on, and reason together with true, truthful God-honoring use of the mind and heart. Though your sins be scarlet, you can be forgiven and your record can be white as snow, if you will just release hold onto your "good works" as being necessary for paying any part of your passage to eternal union with God.

The rest of us have heeded the command to "touch not the unclean thing." Why not you?

640 posted on 02/02/2016 8:19:27 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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