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To: ealgeone; Rasputin; Old Yeller
Your post does nothing to change what I posted. The Greek is clear Joseph and Mary had other children. The context of the NT indicates Joseph and Mary had other children.

Luke 2:41-52 The Boy Jesus at the Temple 41 Every year Jesus’ parents went to Jerusalem for the Festival of the Passover. 42 When he was twelve years old, they went up to the festival, according to the custom. 43 After the festival was over, while his parents were returning home, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem, but they were unaware of it.
44 Thinking he was in their company, they traveled on for a day. Then they began looking for him among their relatives and friends. 45 When they did not find him, they went back to Jerusalem to look for him.
46 After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. 47 Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers.
48 When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.”
49 “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”[a] 50 But they did not understand what he was saying to them.
51 Then he went down to Nazareth with them and was obedient to them. But his mother treasured all these things in her heart. 52 And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.

Where were the other children? The text tells us that Jesus was twelve years old He would have been traveling with the adult males preparing for his Mitzvah. The next oldest child would have been at best around age 10 and would have been traveling not just with the women, but directly with Mary.
No mention is made of these children being on the journey, left with relatives while Mary and Joseph searched or on the return journey.

You also failed to address as to whether Jesus will reign after His enemies are at His feet or how Many children Michael had after her death.

And the biggest points you ignore is that the word "until/ till" does not require that the condition change and the first born does not require that there be a second born. Ishmael was the first born of Abraham and Hagar, but there Is no mention of any other children by Hagar. Isaac is the first born of Sarah, but she had no other children.
The quote from exodus makes it clear "Firstborn" refers to the child that opens the womb.
Stop grasping at straws.

212 posted on 01/02/2016 12:07:46 PM PST by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga
Why aren't the other kids mentioned in the passage you cite?

Because the focus is on Christ in this passage. Again, context is the key.

And the biggest points you ignore is that the word "until/ till" does not require that the condition change and the first born does not require that there be a second born.

Nor does it prohibit something from happening.

The first born does not prohibit another being born.

Again, context is the key to understanding what the passage says.

Ishmael was the first born of Abraham and Hagar, but there Is no mention of any other children by Hagar. Isaac is the first born of Sarah, but she had no other children.

Ok. However, the NT records Joseph and Mary had other children.

The quote from exodus makes it clear "Firstborn" refers to the child that opens the womb.

For context:

“Sanctify to Me every firstborn, the first offspring of every womb among the sons of Israel, both of man and beast; it belongs to Me.” Exodus 13:2 NASB

Ok.

But it does not preclude other children. Notice this word also applies to the firstborn beast as well.

If you try to limit this to only one child that means there was a one child policy in place in the OT and we know that wasn't the case.

Stop grasping at straws.

I'm not the one grasping. You are.

You're ignoring the Greek and the context.

You also failed to address as to whether Jesus will reign after His enemies are at His feet or how Many children Michael had after her death.

One issue at a time.

215 posted on 01/02/2016 12:35:00 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: verga
"You also failed to address as to whether Jesus will reign after His enemies are at His feet or how Many children Michael had after her death"

Who is this Michael and how does he fit into this conversation?

322 posted on 01/03/2016 9:50:20 AM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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