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To: Ancesthntr

“Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son.”
- 1 John 2,22


28 posted on 12/14/2015 12:33:31 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

“Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son.”


FYI, Jews don’t deny what you call “the Father.” There is but one G-d, who created everything, who knows all of our thoughts, who controls history and who has no rivals (i.e. the idea of Satan or an “antichrist” as a somehow equal Divine Being opposing G-d is completely absurd in Judaism). Just FYI, in Judaism there is an angel called “Ha Satan” (the Satan), whose job is to tempt people - at G-d’s direction. This angel, like all others, SERVES G-d, he/it doesn’t and CANNOT oppose Him, since he/it is one of G-d’s creations.

What Jews deny is that a particular Jew who lived in Judea about 2,000 years ago was the Messiah who would rebuild the Temple (which existed during his entire lifetime, so how could he restore it?), bring ALL of the Jews in the Diaspora back to Israel and re-establish a Jewish Kingdom (haven’t seen either of those lately), end war (no, again - the very idea of that would be laughable, if it wasn’t so incredibly tragic), bring knowledge of G-d to ALL people (no, again, since there are still many, many millions of polytheists, atheists, etc.) and, most importantly, NOT die during the process of accomplishing all of these things (no again - no death of Jesus = no resurrection). Jews simply don’t believe that Jesus, or any other Jew, or even all of the Jews who ever lived put together, accomplished ALL of those things yet, let alone someone from the much narrower class of a Jew descended from Solomon on his paternal line (and not also descended from Jeconiah, who was cursed by Jeremiah to NEVER have one of his descendants sit on the throne of Israel), so that’s why they still wait, faithfully expecting that he will come. Oh, btw, he will be a man, and NOT a divine being, so while he will be a highly respected (perhaps THE most respected) person, he will NOT be worshipped - instead, he will foster worship of G-d, and G-d alone.

I guess that you a right, believing Jews ARE each an anti-”Christ” - if you define “Christ” as a term meaning an already-existed Messiah. That person simply hasn’t shown up yet, so how can we “believe” in him?


35 posted on 12/14/2015 1:45:53 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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