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German Bishops’ Conference Says Church in Africa Growing Only Because of Ignorance and Poverty
The Stream ^ | November 28, 2015 | First Things

Posted on 11/29/2015 7:06:15 PM PST by ebb tide

Björn Odendahl, an editor at Katholisch.de, writes the following in the course of commenting on the Pope’s plans for Africa in a piece entitled “The Romantic, Poor Church”:

So also in Africa. Of course the Church is growing there. It grows because the people are socially dependent and often have nothing else but their faith. It grows because the educational situation there is on average at a rather low level and the people accept simple answers to difficult questions(of faith) [sic]. Answers like those that Cardinal Sarah of Guinea provides. And even the growing number of priests is a result not only of missionary power but also a result of the fact that the priesthood is one of the few possibilities for social security on the dark continent.

We all know that the German Bishops’ Conference is one of the most progressive in the world. But it nevertheless beggars belief that such a statement would appear on the Conference’s official website, with its lazy slander of African Christians and priests as poor and uneducated (Odendahl might as well have added “easy to command”) and its gratuitous swipe at Cardinal Sarah; they must really fear him. (The link goes to a Katholisch.de report on Cardinal Sarah’s bracing words on homosexual practice at the recent Synod on the Family.)

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
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1 posted on 11/29/2015 7:06:15 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Hitler was a German/Austrian Catholic at one time, wasn’t he?


2 posted on 11/29/2015 7:08:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: ebb tide

Ignorance speaks from these bishops’ mouths. They wouldn’t know wisdom from ignorance. God bless our African bishops!


3 posted on 11/29/2015 7:10:22 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ebb tide

Sounds like some Bishop has congregation envy, someone needs to do some confessin and penitence.


4 posted on 11/29/2015 7:19:02 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ebb tide
Hitler was baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church. He abandoned the Church as an adolencent. By the time he reached political power, he was convinced that Catholicism and Nazism were intrinsically opposed to each other.

Writing for Yad Vashem, the historian Michael Phayer wrote that by the latter 1930s, church officials knew that the long term aim of Hitler was the "total elimination of Catholicism and of the Christian religion."

5 posted on 11/29/2015 7:26:30 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: ebb tide

Matthew 18:3

And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”

Such is the state of Christianity in Europe.


6 posted on 11/29/2015 7:38:02 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He was raised a nominal Catholic by his parents - probably because they believed it was the best way to get a good civil service job in Imperial Austria - but abandoned religion when he left school and became a member of the anti-Catholic Los von Rom movement in Vienna.
7 posted on 11/29/2015 7:47:39 PM PST by wideawake
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To: ebb tide
If he had any balls he would have said this:

German Bishops’ Conference Says Islam in Africa Growing Only Because of Ignorance and Poverty.

8 posted on 11/29/2015 8:04:21 PM PST by BBell
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To: ebb tide

>> It grows because the people are socially dependent and often have nothing else but their faith.

I would point out that the Church in Africa is growing under the influence of the Holy Spirit. When the bishop denies this and states that the church is growing for unholy reasons, he is committing blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which is the unpardonable sin.


9 posted on 11/29/2015 8:09:38 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: ebb tide
And even the growing number of priests is a result not only of missionary power but also a result of the fact that the priesthood is one of the few possibilities for social security on the dark continent.

From where does the good German priest think his social security comes from? Certainly not offerings collected in empty cathedrals on Sundays.

10 posted on 11/29/2015 9:06:06 PM PST by fso301
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To: ebb tide; Cicero; Nervous Tick

Advent Mass this week here in the UAE had lots of Asian and African folks in attendance. Don’t know about the ignorance part but everybody sure looked joyful, thankful and in love with Christ. Maybe I need to go to Germany next week to see how Mass is supposed to be done.


11 posted on 11/29/2015 9:13:56 PM PST by Shark24
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To: Nervous Tick

Amen.


12 posted on 11/29/2015 9:54:32 PM PST by ImaGraftedBranch (If you haven't figured it out, there is a great falling away...happening before your eyes.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Not to mention an unpardonable microagression!


13 posted on 11/29/2015 10:22:56 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty (All freedom must be transported in bottles of 3 oz or less. - Freeper relictele)
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To: ebb tide

“I think it is a great cheek of the Germans to try and teach the rest of the world anything about religion. They should be in perpetual sackcloth and ashes for all their enormities from Luther to Hitler.” Evelyn Waugh


14 posted on 11/29/2015 10:25:57 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: ebb tide

Is that how they view their own religion? As food for the ignorant?


15 posted on 11/29/2015 10:53:33 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

“Is that how they view their own religion? As food for the ignorant?”

Have you read Pascendi Dominici Gregis?


16 posted on 11/30/2015 12:54:41 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ebb tide

In other news:
Pharisees Say Jesus Only Popular With Sinners and Tax Collectors


17 posted on 11/30/2015 1:14:57 AM PST by pke
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To: Nervous Tick
When the bishop denies this and states that the church is growing for unholy reasons, he is committing blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which is the unpardonable sin.

That was my first thought also. I fear the Bishop will have much to explain for before the White Throne.
18 posted on 11/30/2015 1:40:09 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: ebb tide

Cause the African Church has kept its morality while much of the west has turned its back on morality, they gots to keep that money coming in ya know.


19 posted on 11/30/2015 1:50:10 AM PST by Joe Boucher (the only good mooselimb is a dead mooselimb.)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

>> Not to mention an unpardonable microagression!

LOL


20 posted on 11/30/2015 3:25:00 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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