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To: NRx

I am:

The Father of my children. By my will and desires have I raised them up in my values and morals. They are my progeny.

The husband of my wife. I protect her and am willing to die for her, and the children borne by her, if and when they are threatened. I will protect them at all physical and financial cost for they are MY sheep.

The son of my Father (and birth mother) who raised me to the same Godly values and morals and sent me forth to propagate according to his morals and values that he has handed down. My father will be beside me as I raise my family and protect them. His support is unfailing.

Is that so difficult to understand?

We have a Triune God.


3 posted on 11/23/2015 7:42:48 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Is that so difficult to understand? We have a Triune God.

Actually, it is. With all due respect, I don't think your explanation cleared it up. Your example sounds to me like modalism, which is defined in Wikipedia as "the Heavenly Father, Resurrected Son, and Holy Spirit are three different modes or aspects of one monadic God, as perceived by the believer, rather than three distinct persons within the Godhead - that there are no real or substantial differences among the three, such that there is no substantial identity for the Spirit or the Son." Your example sounds like three different aspects of your existence.

Frankly, I do not think our minds are capable of really grasping the Trinity. We can believe it, but to understand that something can be separate and one is a contradiction our puny human brains cannot fathom.

4 posted on 11/23/2015 7:54:59 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Love ya, Cletus, but this is modalism: you describe one person having three roles. Or five, or 10, as you could have added that you are a nephew, a cousin, an uncle, a sportsman, an employer, a citizen, a BBQ chef, a veteran, etc. etc. It is certainly not Trinitarianism.


7 posted on 11/23/2015 8:01:30 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

You display three finite and visible persons to make your point. God is a Spirit (Jn. 4:23,24), and not a man (Num. 23:19).

The scriptures testify that neither Jesus Christ, nor his apostles, EVER used the phrase “God the Son”; but only the “Son of God”.

If you demand that God the Father is a manly image, along side of the image of the Son, then you and Joseph Smith have something to agree about.

Are you “Texas the Cletus D. Yokel”, or “Cletus D. Yokel of Texas”?

Jesus Christ is the “image of the invisible God” (Col. 1:15), not “God the image”.

Is the Son the source of the Word?....not according to the scriptures: “For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak”. Jn. 12:49,50.

and again: (the Son praying to the Father), “I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me...”. Jn 17:8

While others (fathers and prophets) spoke the words of God, Jesus Christ is the perfect mouth piece of God the Father. He is the audio and visual expression of the omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent invisible God.


27 posted on 11/23/2015 6:19:42 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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