Posted on 11/23/2015 7:29:51 AM PST by NRx
:: experience the uncreated energies of the Most Holy Trinity ::
WHAT?!? this reads like a hindu or buddhist screed.
I’ll ignore you from now on Herr kolokotronis.
“...uncreated energies”
It’s what yo Lutherans call grace. CDY.
+Gregory Palamas is one of the greatest, and some say the last, Eastern Church Fathers.
Ahhhh, so ye be Orthodox, one of Constantinople.
I have several friends of the Orthodox church (most russians) and we have “iron-on-iron” discussions at regular intervals. Kewl.
Tell me, does the Holy Spirit fill the world (God’s creation) or is the Spirit just localized to the XPian church when they gather in the name of Christ?
(Us) Lutherans are certainly cognizant of the Holy Spirit, or as you say the “energies of creation” in world.
BTW, I have due respect for Palamas and his theology...although he might have gained from an Augustinian perspective.
Alas, too late: He died 1359... Maybe he should have studied a bit more of Xrosostom prior to his demise?
Dang!
I told myself I’d ignore you but just couldn’t help myself.
Let’s simply say we disagree and leave it at that? I do not question your Faith as it pertains to salvation. Neither do I argue the understanding of an Roman’s faith or even the Faith of one from Geneva/Zurich.
I really don’t have time to dissect the Constantinople - Roman positions.
Keep the Faith and be confident in your salvation.
Cletus. Go in Peace!
“he might have gained from an Augustinian perspective.”
Poor Blessed Augustine; didn’t know Greek and his theology shows it. He, as you know, was a devote of Manichaeism and its good/evil worldview contributed mightily to his proto “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” theology. In many ways that influence on him set the tone for Western Christianity down to this day. Interestingly, in the generation just after Luther, the divines at Thubingen opened up a discussion with the Patriarch of Constantinople but after seven or so letters, it was broken off by Constantinople. Too bad as at least from my pov, real Lutheranism is in many ways very Orthodox.
I don’t see what you see in that paragraph. What about it makes it clear to you that it is referring to the dismissal of the traditional understanding of Genesis?
You display three finite and visible persons to make your point. God is a Spirit (Jn. 4:23,24), and not a man (Num. 23:19).
The scriptures testify that neither Jesus Christ, nor his apostles, EVER used the phrase “God the Son”; but only the “Son of God”.
If you demand that God the Father is a manly image, along side of the image of the Son, then you and Joseph Smith have something to agree about.
Are you “Texas the Cletus D. Yokel”, or “Cletus D. Yokel of Texas”?
Jesus Christ is the “image of the invisible God” (Col. 1:15), not “God the image”.
Is the Son the source of the Word?....not according to the scriptures: “For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak”. Jn. 12:49,50.
and again: (the Son praying to the Father), “I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me...”. Jn 17:8
While others (fathers and prophets) spoke the words of God, Jesus Christ is the perfect mouth piece of God the Father. He is the audio and visual expression of the omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent invisible God.
When did the Orthodox decree a fixed canon?
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