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To: annalex

“You don’t like what Paul wrote, write your own epistle.”

I like what Paul wrote. I dislike your twisted version, where a builder is the building, and a man who plants is also the field being planted - a textual insanity.

The text is simple and plain, but what is the point of debating if the Catholic Catechism is valued over the words of an Apostle?


Dear brothers and sisters, when I was with you I couldn’t talk to you as I would to spiritual people. I had to talk as though you belonged to this world or as though you were infants in Christ. 2 I had to feed you with milk, not with solid food, because you weren’t ready for anything stronger. And you still aren’t ready, 3 for you are still controlled by your sinful nature. You are jealous of one another and quarrel with each other. Doesn’t that prove you are controlled by your sinful nature? Aren’t you living like people of the world? 4 When one of you says, “I am a follower of Paul,” and another says, “I follow Apollos,” aren’t you acting just like people of the world?

5 After all, who is Apollos? Who is Paul? We are only God’s servants through whom you believed the Good News. Each of us did the work the Lord gave us. 6 I planted the seed in your hearts, and Apollos watered it, but it was God who made it grow. 7 It’s not important who does the planting, or who does the watering. What’s important is that God makes the seed grow. 8 The one who plants and the one who waters work together with the same purpose. And both will be rewarded for their own hard work. 9 For we are both God’s workers. And you are God’s field. You are God’s building.

10 Because of God’s grace to me, I have laid the foundation like an expert builder. Now others are building on it. But whoever is building on this foundation must be very careful. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one we already have - Jesus Christ.

12 Anyone who builds on that foundation may use a variety of materials - gold, silver, jewels, wood, hay, or straw. 13 But on the judgment day, fire will reveal what kind of work each builder has done. The fire will show if a person’s work has any value. 14 If the work survives, that builder will receive a reward. 15 But if the work is burned up, the builder will suffer great loss. The builder will be saved, but like someone barely escaping through a wall of flames.

16 Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 17 God will destroy anyone who destroys this temple. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.

18 Stop deceiving yourselves. If you think you are wise by this world’s standards, you need to become a fool to be truly wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God...So don’t boast about following a particular human leader...


470 posted on 11/09/2015 8:31:17 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Mr Rogers
You are God’s building

So far so good.

But if the work is burned up, the builder will suffer great loss

Your epistle, substituting "builder for "every man" is amusing but it is not what St. Paul wrote.

In the original the building goes through flames and is purified through it. I don't dispute that the minister is judged alongside the flock, but the idea that the purification of the building has nothing to do with the man who is that building is foreign to the text.

475 posted on 11/09/2015 9:12:24 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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