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To: ctdonath2

Paradise WAS the waiting place, the purgation place. It was not heaven. Christ was the first one into heaven.


12 posted on 11/02/2015 7:37:52 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
If you believe that paradise was purgatory, then Christ had to endure purgatory with the thief.

Once you start compounding your errors ... you are not really in the ballgame anymore.

18 posted on 11/02/2015 7:44:38 AM PST by dartuser
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To: Salvation
"Paradise" is defined as "heaven" (whatever term & description for the religion being discussed).

Yours is another example of Catholicism proving its own correctness by twisting words/definitions/etc on a whim to match whatever imputed infallible doctrine. In this case, a vague (and _not_ universally agreed on) notion of "Purgatory" is declared unshakable doctrine, which demands a wild stretch of other verses to buttress the notion, which in turn requires changing the very definition of "Paradise" from "heaven" to "a nice place to wait while your soul is cleansed", which is at stark odds with what the word always meant, which in turn will require anything else referencing "Paradise" be reinterpreted to satisfy the twisted-out-of-all-recognition prior imperative justification - rather than noting that maybe the original obtuse doctrine was incorrect, and adjusting it to fit all other sensible doctrines & definitions.

32 posted on 11/02/2015 8:16:31 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Trump/Cruz - Because you gotta win, first.)
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To: Salvation
Paradise WAS the waiting place, the purgation place. It was not heaven. Christ was the first one into heaven.

No it was not the purgation place...No one got cleansed of anything...No one went there because they had sins to pay for...

They weren't waiting to get clean, they were waiting for Jesus to open the doggone door...And he did...

They all left at the same time...And the gates of that place are still wide open...It's empty...

144 posted on 11/03/2015 8:55:53 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: Salvation; ctdonath2
Paradise WAS the waiting place, the purgation place. It was not heaven. Christ was the first one into heaven.

Paradise was the waiting place but not for purging.

There is no indication in the account of the rich man and Lazarus that gives the slightest indication that there was any kind of purging going on.

286 posted on 11/06/2015 3:59:07 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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