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The Decline of the Catholic Church in Germany and the reasons for it
Catholic World Report ^ | October 31, 2015 | Dr. Michael Schneider-Flagmeyer

Posted on 10/31/2015 1:45:40 PM PDT by NYer

Bavarian bishops walk in procession to the Basilica of the Fourteen Holy Helpers near Bad Staffelstein, Germany, in this 2012 photo. (CNS photo/Daniel Karmann, EPA) (July 28, 2014)

(October 29, 2015, Bonn, kath.net/Forum Deutscher Katholiken) 

We are experiencing in our days a frightening decline of the Catholic Church in Germany. So many people have left the German Particular Church that it urgently needs to stop and reflect; an evaluation of the situation by the bishops is indispensable. The frightening thing about the whole development is that now the older generation is leaving in great numbers—the very Catholics who supposedly still benefited from catechetical religious instruction according to the doctrine of the Church. Besides the massive exodus of lay people, an especially alarming sign is the fact that many priests are abandoning their ministry, fleeing to foreign countries or retreating into niche positions, because they want to get away from the stress of the unholy diocesan bureaucracy with its oddly non-ecclesiastical business. In this regard the oldest German Diocese, Trier, stands out especially; it seems not to care at all about its priests, and consequently much too little about its congregations.

What are the reasons for this?

A flyer has just been published by the German Bishops Conference, that is, by its Secretariat with the “professionals” enlisted by it, entitled “Sensitive to the Sexes: A Catholic Interpretation of Gender”. And in it views are championed that contradict all the statements by the Pope, the cardinals, the recently concluded Roman Synod and in particular a declaration of the German-speaking group of Synod Fathers.

The controversy surrounding this flyer is symptomatic of the situation of the German Particular Church, as it has developed in recent decades, as we intend to show in the following remarks.

A lot has been written about the flyer itself. The retired Curial official Paul Cardinal Cordes protested in horror against this shoddy effort. The best qualified critique of the flyer was composed by the Ordinary of Regensburg and former full professor of dogmatic theology at the University of Trier, Bishop Rudolf Voderholzer, so that we do not wish to discuss the flyer in any detail here. [A link to Bishop Voderholzer’s article is given in the original German opinion piece.]

His response contains references and links to other statements as well. Among the official statements of the Magisterium about gender ideology, we should mention especially the opinion of Pope Francis as the Supreme Pastor of the Universal Church. He has made remarks about “gender mainstreaming” on various occasions. Probably his most severe comment was that this ideology is demonic. That matters to the makers of the flyer about as much as water rolling off a duck’s back, although these scribblers constantly pick and choose from among the Pope’s statements what they can use for their ideological battle on behalf of the spirit of the age. The Synod on the Family in Rome unambiguously spoke out against gender ideology. Indeed, the Austrian Catholic news website Kath.net reported that even the German-speaking Synod Fathers, a group including the President of the German Bishops Conference, Reinhard Cardinal Marx, declared in a special intervention during the Synod on October 21: “All theories that view the sex of a human being as a subsequent construct and try to make socially acceptable the idea that it can be changed arbitrarily, are to be rejected as ideologies.”

Even this very clear statement seems to fall on deaf ears in the Secretariat of the German Bishops Conference. Now one might object that the flyer had been prepared before this joint declaration in which the President of the German Bishops Conference and Archbishop Koch, who heads the Committee on the Family, participated. But then the flyer should have been withdrawn from circulation and pulped over the next few days. We do not think that that will happen, because here again the biggest problem of the Catholic Church in Germany becomes visible, a problem that exists nowhere else in the Universal Church: namely the power of the ecclesiastical bureaucracy (chancery staffs) that has expanded beyond all bounds in recent decades, and of the committees which, because of the deliberate omission of catechesis for decades, now scarcely have any knowledge of the faith, as the director of the chancery staff of one of the largest German dioceses assured me. He said that they ought to fire 70% of the staff there, because they no longer have anything to do with Christianity. The great Archdiocese of Munich and Freising in 1960, at the death of Cardinal Wendel, had 45 employees and three nuns as their chancery staff. Today there are approximately 1,000 (one thousand, sic!). And of course they have to keep busy. That is possible only in our local Church, which is super-fueled by our church taxes. Nowhere else in the Universal Church is there anything like it.

By now these bureaucracies and committees have so much power that they hold most bishops in the palm of their hand. But only the bishops can change this. And we have seen, in the fates of Bishops Mixa and Tebartz van-Elst [whose resignations were extorted based on trumped-up charges of non-sexual child abuse and financial mismanagement, respectively –Translator’s Note], how dangerous it is for bishops to rebel against this power; the latter prelate works today at the Vatican in an important position for the Universal Church.

In Germany a parallel church has been formed out of this ecclesiastical bureaucracy, along with the committees, the institutions and the extensive cliques of theologians ensconced at the state universities, and here in our country it wields the “power” to a great extent. This is especially true too of the Secretariat of the German Bishops Conference, which is responsible for the flyer, and especially for the KNA (Katholische Nachrichtenagentur, German-language “Catholic News Agency”), and also of the Central Committee of German Catholics (ZdK) and the official Catholic press and internet presence. One Vatican prelate told me three years ago that the supersized Secretariat of the [German] Bishops Conference piles so much documentation on the bishops that they alone would be overburdened by it; well somehow these people have to keep busy. Is all this now too bleak a view of the situation?

One of the most famous Vaticanists, the utterly liberal John L. Allen, in his exhaustive 500-page book, The FutureChurch: How Ten Trends are Revolutionizing the Catholic Church, thoroughly and conclusively depicted for our particular Church and others of the Northern Hemisphere the decline that we are experiencing, and he named and described the “parallel church” that we mentioned. He foretold the decline of what we have designated here as the “parallel church”.

Through our prayers and support of the bishops, let us help to make the parallel church disappear as fast as possible, so that the Church in our country will really listen now for a change to the whole message of this Pope Francis, at least, and energetically accomplish the detachment from worldly things [Entweltlichung] that he calls for almost every day with practical examples. May we be assisted in these efforts, under the leadership of the Mother of God, by the Patron Saint of Germans, the prince of the heavenly hosts Saint Michael, by Saint Boniface and by all our great saints through the power of their intercession.

(Translated by Michael J. Miller)


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: germany

1 posted on 10/31/2015 1:45:40 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 10/31/2015 1:45:59 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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In 15-20 years it won’t matter... Germany will be an Islamic-run state and the Catholic Church, if it still exists there, will be pushed to extreme subservience or eliminated altogether.


3 posted on 10/31/2015 1:54:19 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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Does Germany still have a “Church tax” on church goers? If so, do muslims in Germany have to pay this “Church Tax” or an equivalent “Mosque tax”??


4 posted on 10/31/2015 2:08:32 PM PDT by joshhiggins
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To: NYer

not to try to be too ‘secular’ about this, but Germany is being sold out by its ruling elite right now...
and the IslamoNazis will stamp out the Church and Christian faithful anyway.
regardless of whether any particular priest, bishop, or believer is faithful to traditional Church teachings and Biblical values, or not

there is a time, at least, when we must stand up and be heard by the larger ‘secular’ society

repatriate, export the Islamics... or Germany is lost.


5 posted on 10/31/2015 2:08:51 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: NYer

but i am totally in sympathy with and pray for the upholding of Christian morals by the Church


6 posted on 10/31/2015 2:14:09 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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True it has more to do with Germany than the Church

Or maybe their still pissed at the church for not smuggling more Nazi's after WW2

7 posted on 10/31/2015 2:29:08 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: NYer

Germans aren’t having kids. That’s how the Catholic Church grows. People are born into it.


8 posted on 10/31/2015 2:53:21 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama's Iran nuclear deal - The Devil is in the details.)
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To: joshhiggins

According to the article there is still a church tax in Germany. Austria had something similar, and may still have it.


9 posted on 10/31/2015 2:53:32 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ScottinVA; verga
In 15-20 years it won’t matter... Germany will be an Islamic-run state and the Catholic Church, if it still exists there, will be pushed to extreme subservience or eliminated altogether.

It may not take that long.

German Village of 102 Braces for 750 Asylum Seekers

Angela Merkel, like most politicians, does not consider the long range implications of a decision. They seek to solve an immediate problem and think that is the solution. We know from experience, the Muslims do not embrace the local culture but impose their own.

SLAVERY, TERRORISM and ISLAM

The following is a description (slightly modified) from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. Link

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness.

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs [Europe, Australia, USA and Japan]. Six percent of US prison inmates are Muslim. Like any other minority, they won’t integrate, but work to build their own separate community.

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. South Africa's Muslim population is 2%, but they control 35% of the businesses, a large percentage of the banks and have five Cabinet seats while Christians (77% of the population) have none.

They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves (along with threats for failure to comply).

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia; Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world, but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. (Ei: car-burnings in France last October.) Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats.

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning (India, Mindanao, Philippines).

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare [Indonesia].

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya (infidel tax). (Sudan, Kosovo, Lebanon and Egypt).

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide [Western Papua (New Guinea), Iran, Biafra, Turkey and North Nigeria].

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" - House of Peace - as in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen.

10 posted on 10/31/2015 3:21:46 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: Verginius Rufus

“Let us help to make the parallel church disappear as fast as possible.”

The Catholic Church in Germany is full of parasites. A parasite is defined as “an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host’s expense.” German Catholic priests receive $10K a month.

The Catholic Church in Germany is full of priests and bishops who are living The Life of Riley. “The expression Living the life of Riley suggests an ideal contented life, possibly living on someone else’s money, time, or work.” The priests are wealthy, spoiled and lack faith. Same is true of the Jesuits in America.

Nothing new. Matthew 21:12. “Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.” Our prayers and fastings will hopefully trigger the Lord to “turn the tables” in Germany and Sweden and...


11 posted on 10/31/2015 3:34:51 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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Western Europe, Christian Europe is finished. The invasion of millions of Muslims and the secular humanists have seen to that. In ten yeas time, maybe less the great Cathedrals will either be mosques or burnt to the ground. In any event Europe is finished.


12 posted on 10/31/2015 5:49:46 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: NYer

Interesting article. You can see this at work in the unHoly German presence at the Family Synod. They get state tax money, for a start. This gives them so much power and control.


13 posted on 10/31/2015 6:08:07 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: NYer

Interesting flyer.
Did they post it to the door of All Saints Church in Wittenberg?


14 posted on 11/01/2015 7:58:01 AM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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