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Holy Tunic of Argenteuil, Seamless Garment, To Be Displayed in 2016
Aletelia ^
| October 12, 2015
| ELIZABETH SCALIA
Posted on 10/12/2015 1:16:55 PM PDT by NYer
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:16:55 PM PDT
by
NYer
To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:17:19 PM PDT
by
NYer
(Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
To: Swordmaker
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:17:36 PM PDT
by
NYer
(Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
To: NYer
Idolatry akin to pagan idolatry of relics.
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:20:08 PM PDT
by
ifinnegan
To: NYer
I thought the garment supposedly worn by Jesus at Calvary was at a cathedral in Trier, Germany.
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:22:03 PM PDT
by
Fiji Hill
To: ifinnegan
If its being idolized, then yes its idolatry, but only then.
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:23:50 PM PDT
by
SampleMan
(Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
To: ifinnegan
If you don’t believe that God works through relics, then you don’t believe the Bible.
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:28:04 PM PDT
by
Wyrd bið ful aræd
(Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
At what point does this become superstition? Ever?
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:30:50 PM PDT
by
sparklite2
(Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
To: NYer
Holy Relics! I have type AB (positive) blood too.
What a nice coinkidink.
In all seriousness, these relics ARE truly amazing, aren't they?
To: NYer
I wonder how you weave something like that in one piece. I cannot picture the loom.
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:31:50 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(I'm being so sincere right now.)
To: sparklite2
At what point does this become superstition? Ever?Simple: it becomes superstition when people step outside their faith. We ARE instructed what we must believe in, that is, dogma. There aren't many things that fall under that category, this included. We won't be out of our faith if we don't believe this since it is NOT dogma.
To: NYer
Does the Church hold that this is in fact the garment worn by Christ, or does it not??
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:34:27 PM PDT
by
Eric Pode of Croydon
(Call me a "Free Traitor" if it amuses you. It will only strengthen my resolve.)
To: Tax-chick
You could put what I know about looms into 1/8 of a teaspoon and STILL have room for more.
To: sparklite2
I suppose if you believe that the object itself is inherently powerful, rather than something that God chooses to work through, or if you think it’s like a vending machine from God (insert veneration, get miracle), then you’re getting superstitious.
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:36:21 PM PDT
by
Wyrd bið ful aræd
(Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
I have two of them if anyone wants to buy them.
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:37:58 PM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
To: Eric Pode of Croydon
Does the Church hold that this is in fact the garment worn by Christ, or does it not?? They THINK it is but, of course, no one knows for sure, that is, the Church does NOT hold to it as a FACT.
There have been TONS of fabulous fakes throughout the millenia of Christendom and Catholics are only required to believe in dogma, NOT in every relic, true or not, that surfaces.
To: NYer
"Little children, guard yourselves from idols." - Apostle John, I John 5:21
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:40:55 PM PDT
by
aMorePerfectUnion
( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
“If you don’t believe that God works through relics, then you don’t believe the Bible.”
Please post verses that teach, command or implore believers to save, worship, venerate, idolize or kneel down before “relics.”
Post verses that say this is normative for believers in the Christian assembly.
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:43:43 PM PDT
by
aMorePerfectUnion
( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
To: Eric Pode of Croydon
I suppose it could possibly be done on something like a Navajo rug loom, but the advantage of double-layer weaving an everyday garment like that, as opposed to sewing the front and back together, escapes me.
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:44:29 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(I'm being so sincere right now.)
To: Tax-chick
Maybe a double Mobius loom.
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posted on
10/12/2015 1:47:50 PM PDT
by
steve86
(Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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