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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s kinda funny....my wife and I had an argument about this on this last Thursday.
I am of the opinion that there should be absolutely NO muslims here in the US. This ‘religion’ needs to be branded a terrorist political group, have any protections granted to a religion by the 1st Amendment nullified, and all muslims must simply leave the country. Because of their doctrine of taquiyya, you absolutely cannot trust ANYTHING they say. So, even if they renounce Islam in order to stay in the US, you cannot trust them.

Now, my wife and I are both Christians. We both believe that ALL people, no matter where they are, have the opportunity to come to know Christ and be saved. My wife argues that muslims need to come to Jesus. While I agree, I also note something that is a special problem when it comes to muslims...the afore-mentioned taquiyya.

About 3 or 4 weeks ago, I saw an article posted on FR. I can’t remember who posted it, but the author’s last name was Ibrahim, and he was writing on muslims and the doctrine of taquiyya. Muzzies will literally say anything to lull someone into a false sense of security.
In the article, the author told of a Christian pastor in Turkey. A group of 3 or 4 muslims expressed interest in Christianity and had questions. The pastor accepted them and answered the questions. Apparently, a couple of them declared they wanted to become Christians, and were even baptized. The new ‘converts’ were friendly and well-liked. However, the pastor found out, after a couple of months, that the group, including the new ‘converts’ were in fact trying to infiltrate the group in order to kill the pastor. In other words...a false conversion, perpetrated by muslims practicing taquiyya. You simply cannot trust ANYTHING a muslim says...EVER.

My wife argues that muslims need to have the Gospel of Jesus preached to them.
I agree.
My wife says they have as much right to come to Christ as any of us.
I agree.
My wife says that Jesus died for the muslim sins as much as He died for ours.
I agree.

What I argue is that if they want to come to Christ, by all means, let them....AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT INSIDE THE BORDERS OF THE UNITED STATES. Even if they profess Christ, they should not be allowed to re-enter the US...because of taquiyya.

Are there ex-muslims who have truly converted? Yes, I believe there are. They live in the shadow of that darkness known as Islam, and they deserve our prayers for courage and perseverance against that wicked system. They put their lives on the line to believe as they do, and they have my undying respect. In Heaven, they will stand among the Redeemed...of that, I have no doubt.

But....until they can prove beyond the shadow of ANY doubt that they are truly EX-muslims...I don’t want them here in the US.


23 posted on 10/11/2015 7:35:01 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Only one solution left.....)
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To: hoagy62

And our nation — nay, the entire world — has been on high alert from Pro-Islam forces since at least 2001. How does it feel?


24 posted on 10/11/2015 7:37:19 AM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: hoagy62; 2ndDivisionVet; Lopeover; Eagles6; GraceG; dp0622; FourPeas; 867V309; publius911; Netz; ...
Excellent post. I agree with you about the near-impossibility of trusting someone who has been steeped in the hatred and commitment to lying and overthrow that characterizes islam. Our past immigration poliices were based on basic human decency of a type that is virtually forbidden in Islam.

My answer, as a Christian praying for the lost, has been to support a ministry called SAT-7. Its US offices are here in Maryland, and it has offices in many places around the globe. SAT-7's mission is to bring the gospel to the Middle East and North Africa via satellite transmissions that circumvent interference by local governments. Not just the Christian minorities often persecuted in the Middle East, but also Middle Eastern muslims trapped in their fascist religion can enjoy the Christian programming 24/7 in their own language in the privacy of their homes, via satellite on tv or their laptops. Satellite is the main type of media transmission in the Middle East.

SAT-7's mission to adults is life-changing and gives hope to so many captives under Islamic oppression; but also its work with children over the SAT-7 Kids channel is particularly wonderful. Earlier this year I had the privilege of meeting their primary children's television host, "Mr. Know", who is like the Mr. Rogers of Arabic-speaking children. His show has a colorful set with big toys and all kinds of imagery appealing to children, and the Christian kids who call in praying for other kids in the region is astounding for their knowlege of the promises of Christ. He is an ardent Christian beliver, and the work he does answering children's questions on his shows is heart-melting. Here is a video of "Mr. Know" interviewing two young friends, one of whom lives in an Iraqi refugee camp, who had been separated by the war.

I urge any FReeper who wants to know more about what Christians are doing to help bring the gospel to the Middle East to check out the many links within the SAT-7 web site. SAT-7 also has a YouTube channel.

31 posted on 10/11/2015 3:03:06 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: hoagy62

Whoa!


45 posted on 10/11/2015 3:55:53 PM PDT by onyx ( PLEASE HELP COMPLETE THIS FReepathon THIS MONTH!)
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To: hoagy62
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER trust a Muslim ! ! !


Muslims are well know for lying about their faith. For a better understanding of the issue, read HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ).

So ...I SAY AGAIN,
63 posted on 10/12/2015 9:28:15 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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