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How the Rosary Led Me to Christ
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 10-07-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/08/2015 8:02:23 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: MHGinTN
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18    New International Version (NIV)

Believers Who Have Died

13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

 
 
 
 
From where to where? 
No believers are mentioned coming from Heaven.
Rise FROM where?

341 posted on 10/10/2015 6:54:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
1 Corinthians 15:51-53 King James Version (KJV)

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

 

 

Raised? or Lowered?

342 posted on 10/10/2015 6:56:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
It’s absolutely ludicrous to even think that any one of them would say *No* to that announcement.

What IS ludicrous is to come up with stuff that is NOT found in the precious book the Catholics compiled.

343 posted on 10/10/2015 6:57:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone

At least by SOME Catholics.

If the others do NOT worship her; let them try to go a week without mentioning her name.


344 posted on 10/10/2015 6:58:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
...indicate Mary's sinlessness...

Assuming gets me in trouble; why doesn't it do the same for Rome?

345 posted on 10/10/2015 7:00:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
...all of the Savior’s “select men”...

And one of His select women is sinless.

O...
K...

346 posted on 10/10/2015 7:01:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I see you were moved to leave Mary out of your statement.


347 posted on 10/10/2015 7:02:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; ealgeone

If Catholics spent as much time focusing on Jesus as they do Mary, it would revolutionize their spiritual lives.

I have yet to have one Catholic tell me they would take me up on the challenge for one month, to take all the time they give to Mary in whatever form, and spend it on Jesus and not mention Mary even once.


348 posted on 10/10/2015 7:02:45 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

STA will now appear with his “...if they won’t listen to the church...”


349 posted on 10/10/2015 7:03:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
That Catholic Church does not have "dogmas" on the subject of Greek grammar.

CAUTION!

The following is NOT 'dogma'!!


"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours." — Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

Therefore, if anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema. — Vatican 1, Ses. 4, Cp. 1

350 posted on 10/10/2015 7:05:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: avenir

and thanks to the Catholic Church for writing and organizing the bible, who do you think put in the chapters, verses, etc. There were no born agains or protestants back then, it was the Catholic Church who wrote, transcribed and translated the bible.


351 posted on 10/10/2015 7:07:57 PM PDT by Coleus (For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: Elsie

I don’t get your point. Is this Greek grammar?


352 posted on 10/10/2015 7:11:44 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Mercy means giving people a challenge; not covering reality with gift wrap." - a Synod participant)
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To: Coleus

Please, not this again.


353 posted on 10/10/2015 7:13:05 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Curious if you're going to answer my question regarding our discussion on Luke 1:28 and the root meaning of the word that forms κεχαριτωμένη?

If not, I understand.

354 posted on 10/10/2015 7:16:02 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

the Catholic Church wrote and organized the bible. There were no born agains or Protestants back then. So, the one and true church of Jesus, you know, the church one joins and born into when they are baptized, wrote the bible.


355 posted on 10/10/2015 7:22:11 PM PDT by Coleus (For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: ealgeone

Please, not this again. >>

Mary most Holy, Mary most Pure, the Immaculate Conception.

O Mary Conceived Without Sin, Pray For Us Who Have Recourse to Thee.


356 posted on 10/10/2015 7:23:35 PM PDT by Coleus (For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: Coleus; ealgeone

Big deal.

It would have been done at some point in time or another anyway.

It’s nothing to brag on nor does it confer ownership, rights, ability to *correctly* interpret it, or any other special privileges someone may think they deserve for doing so.


357 posted on 10/10/2015 7:24:47 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Coleus

Exactly what is she supposed to be praying for you about?

I see no request there for specifics.


358 posted on 10/10/2015 7:25:39 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Coleus
Dude, there were no born agains back then???? Jesus would disagree with you.

Catholics sure don't know the very book they claimed to have "given" us.

Recommend you read John 3 for context.

359 posted on 10/10/2015 8:01:37 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Coleus; metmom

Catholics instinctively turn to mary and not her Son. Never ceases to amaze me.


360 posted on 10/10/2015 8:12:20 PM PDT by ealgeone
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